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@@ -72,9 +72,9 @@ The sheer number of hours we invested in this operation is _nuts_: desperate all
 
 what about _my_ mental health?
 
-Men who wish they were women do not particularly resemble actual women? We just—don't? This seems kind of obvious, really?
 
-my friend thinks I'm naive to have expected such a community—she was recommending "What You Can't Say" in 2009—but in 2009, we did not expect that _whether or not I should cut my dick off_ would _become_ a politicized issue, which is new evidence about the wisdom of the original vision
+Telling the difference between fantasy and reality is kind of an important life skill
+
 
 but if my expectations (about the community) were wrong, that's a problem with my model; reality doesn't have to care
 
@@ -472,8 +472,6 @@ fame: arguing with a Discord server was low-impact compared to getting the leade
 
 https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/CEGnJBHmkcwPTysb7/lonely-dissent
 
-Telling the difference between fantasy and reality is kind of an important life skill
-
 
 https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/11/07/does-age-bring-wisdom/
 
@@ -488,14 +486,6 @@ https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/ctpkTaqTKbmm6uRgC/failed-utopia-4-2
 
 
 
-The short story ["Failed Utopia #4-2"](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/ctpkTaqTKbmm6uRgC/failed-utopia-4-2) portrays an almost-aligned superintelligence constructing a happiness-maximizing utopia for humans—except that because [evolution didn't design women and men to be optimal partners for each other](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Py3uGnncqXuEfPtQp/interpersonal-entanglement), and the AI is prohibited from editing people's minds, the happiness-maximizing solution ends up splitting up the human species by sex and giving women and men their own _separate_ utopias, complete with artificially-synthesized romantic partners.
-
-At the time, [I expressed horror](https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/ctpkTaqTKbmm6uRgC/failed-utopia-4-2/comment/PhiGnX7qKzzgn2aKb) at the idea in the comments section, because my quasi-religious psychological-sex-differences denialism required that I be horrified. But looking back eleven years later (my deconversion from my teenage religion being pretty thorough at this point, I think), the _argument makes sense_ (though you need an additional [handwave](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HandWave) to explain why the AI doesn't give every _individual_ their separate utopia—if existing women and men aren't optimal partners for each other, so too are individual men not optimal same-sex friends for each other).
-
-verthandi
-
-[on my reading, it's an important part of the argument that _verthandi_ are a _separate thing_, not just synthesized women]
-
 https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QZs4vkC7cbyjL9XA9/changing-emotions
 
 > Jun 18, 2008
@@ -516,3 +506,9 @@ Arguing with a specific person's published words is important, because otherwise
 (I told people that my father was coming to pick me up at the end of my 72-hour (== 3 days) evaluation period, but that it wasn't fair that I couldn't rescue everyone.)
 
 blegg commentary:  https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/GEJzPwY8JedcNX2qz/blegg-mode#aAgSDZ4ddHpzj9fNN
+
+if it's objective, there is truth; if it's not-objective social construction for coordination purposes (like money or Christmas), it is at least subject to _negotiation_ (so "words don't mean anything" isn't a valid excuse)
+
+http://www.paulgraham.com/marginal.html
+
+If we _actually_ had the sex change technology described in "Changing Emotions", no one would be motivated to invent these category-gerrymandering mind games in the first place