X-Git-Url: http://unremediatedgender.space/source?a=blobdiff_plain;f=notes%2Fi-tell-myself-sections.md;h=89b4acfd32267635c4ab8d9ffa5eaab98e1c3cf7;hb=8d4077e194fbf6b5319d64a3d8e6309e7ec2dda2;hp=7fbd40bf9b43322137a95df5e80faf3a2b63124d;hpb=d6c7f3ea75d38dfe1e4b257a0db0e4f213768455;p=Ultimately_Untrue_Thought.git diff --git a/notes/i-tell-myself-sections.md b/notes/i-tell-myself-sections.md index 7fbd40b..89b4acf 100644 --- a/notes/i-tell-myself-sections.md +++ b/notes/i-tell-myself-sections.md @@ -99,6 +99,10 @@ Someone asked me: "Wouldn't it be embarrassing if the community solved Friendly But the _reason_ it seemed _at all_ remotely plausible that our little robot cult could be pivotal in creating Utopia forever was _not_ "[Because we're us](http://benjaminrosshoffman.com/effective-altruism-is-self-recommending/), the world-saving good guys", but rather _because_ we were going to discover and refine the methods of _systematically correct reasoning_. +If you're doing systematically correct reasoning, you should be able to get the right answer even when the question _doesn't matter_. Obviously, the safety of the world does not directly depend on being able to think clearly about trans issues. In the same way, the safety of a coal mine for humans does not _directly_ depend on [whether it's safe for canaries](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/canary_in_a_coal_mine). + +The "discourse algorithm" (the collective generalization of "cognitive algorithm") that can't just _get this shit right_ in 2019 (because being out of step with the reigning Bay Area ideological fashion is deemed too expensive by a consequentialist algorithm that counts unpopularity as a cost), also can't get heliocentrism right in 1632 _for the same reason_—and I really doubt it can get AI alignment theory right in 2039. + If the people _marketing themselves_ as the good guys who are going to save the world using systematically correct reasoning are _not actually interested in doing systematically correct reasoning_ (because systematically correct reasoning leads to two or three conclusions that are politically "impossible" to state clearly in public, and no one has the guts to [_not_ shut up and thereby do the politically impossible](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/nCvvhFBaayaXyuBiD/shut-up-and-do-the-impossible)), that's arguably _worse_ than the situation where the community doesn't exist at all. ----- @@ -119,10 +123,6 @@ _Literally_ all I'm asking for is for the branded systematically-correct-reasoni Note, **(3) is _entirely compatible_ with trans women being women**. The point is that if you want to claim that trans women are women, you need some sort of _argument_ for why that categorization makes sense in the context you want to use the word—why that map usefully reflects some relevant aspect of the territory. If you want to _argue_ that hormone replacement therapy constitutes an effective sex change, or that trans is a brain-intersex condition and the brain is the true referent of "gender", or that [coordination constraints on _shared_ categories](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/edEXi4SpkXfvaX42j/schelling-categories-and-simple-membership-tests) [support the self-identification criterion](/2019/Oct/self-identity-is-a-schelling-point/), that's fine, because those are _arguments_ that someone who initially disagreed with your categorization could _engage with on the merits_. In contrast, "I can define a word any way I want" can't be engaged with in the same way because it's a denial of the possibility of merits. ----- - -[trade arrangments: if that's the world we live in, fine] - ------ [happy price, symmetry-breaking] @@ -179,8 +179,17 @@ I don't doubt Serano's report of her own _experiences_. But "it became obvious t ----- -["delusional perverts", no one understands me] +If I sound angry, it's because I actually do feel a lot of anger, but I wish I knew how to more reliably convey its target. Some trans women I know + +[think I'm collaborating with the cis] [nor, by my own principles can I say they're wrong about me by self-declaration] [agree that scapegoating is real] ----- [You "can't" define a word any way you want, or you "can"—what actually matters is the math] + +---- + +[leaning on "Travis" for social proof] + +---- +