X-Git-Url: http://unremediatedgender.space/source?a=blobdiff_plain;f=notes%2Fmemoir-sections.md;h=6e6a370043a0d8a39f2e64b3e03640acf6875476;hb=21e6c3f1de35997a5c4eda839883295b67363c24;hp=b6239819d8b606c1272fcc86a62f431990111f6f;hpb=54b2b72bcfb8f8a53f377d425df6aae01a4dea02;p=Ultimately_Untrue_Thought.git diff --git a/notes/memoir-sections.md b/notes/memoir-sections.md index b623981..6e6a370 100644 --- a/notes/memoir-sections.md +++ b/notes/memoir-sections.md @@ -1,18 +1,59 @@ -_ "Lenore" psychiatric disaster -- Eliezerfic fight conclusion +Notes from pt. 3–6 readthrough (post publication of pt. 1–2)— +_ fullname Taylor and Hoffman at start of pt. 3 +_ footnote clarifying that "Riley" and Sarah weren't core members of the group, despite being included on some emails? +_ be more specific about Ben's anti-EA and Jessica's anti-MIRI things, perhaps in footnotes +_ Ben on "locally coherent coordination": use direct quotes for Ben's language—maybe rewrite in my own language (footnote?) as an understanding test +_ set context for "EA Has a Lying Problem" (written by Sarah, likely with Michael's influence—maybe ask Sarah) +_ clarify schism (me and Vassar bros leaving the EA/rat borg?) +_ set context for Anna on first mention in the postq +_ more specific on "mostly pretty horrifying" and group conversation with the whole house +_ paragraph to explain the cheerful price bit +_ cut words from the "Yes Requires" slapfight? +_ better introduction of Steven Kaas +_ "Not the Incentives"—rewrite given that I'm not shielding Ray +_ cut many words from "Social Reality" scuffle +_ is "long May 2020" link still good? +_ better context on "scam" &c. earlier +_ Ben's "financial fraud don't inquire as to the conscious motives of the perp" claim may be false +_ later thoughts on jump to evaluation, translating between different groups' language +_ mention that I was miffed about "Boundaries?" not getting Curated, while one of Euk's animal posts did +_ examples of "bitter and insulting" comments about rationalists +_ cut words from descriptions of other posts! (if people want to read them, they can click through) +_ explicitly mention http://benjaminrosshoffman.com/bad-faith-behavior-not-feeling/ +_ cut words from NRx denouncement Jessica discussion +_ "I" statements +_ we can go stronger than "I definitely don't think Yudkowsky _thinks of himself_ as having given up on Speech _in those words_" +_ try to clarify Abram's categories view (Michael didn't get it) +_ cut lots of words from December 2019 blogging spree +_ in a footnote, defend the "cutting my dick off" rhetorical flourish +_ mention Nick Bostrom email scandal (and his not appearing on the one-sentence CAIS statement) +_ revise and cut words from "bad faith" section since can link to "Assume Bad Faith" +_ cut words from January 2020 Twitter exchange (after war criminal defenses) +_ revise reply to Xu +_ cut lots of words from Scotts comments on Jessica's MIRI post (keep: "attempting to erase the agency", Scott blaming my troubles on Michael being absurd) +_ do I have a better identifier than "Vassarite"? +_ maybe I do want to fill in a few more details about the Sasha disaster, conditional on what I end up writing regarding Scott's prosecution?—and conditional on my separate retro email—also the Zolpidem thing + + +slotted TODO blocks— +✓ psychiatric disaster +_ "Agreeing With Stalin" intro recap +_ recap of crimes, cont'd +_ Dolphin War finish +_ lead-in to Sept. 2021 Twitter altercation _ Michael Vassar and the Theory of Optimal Gossip -_ plan to reach out to Rick -- regrets, wasted time, conclusion +_ plan to reach out to Rick / Michael on creepy men/crazy men _ reaction to Ziz _ State of Steven -_ culture off the rails; my warning points to Vaniver _ complicity and friendship _ out of patience email -_ the hill he wants to die on -_ recap of crimes, cont'd -_ lead-in to Sept. 2021 Twitter altercation -_ Dolphin War finish -_ Michael on creepy men/crazy men +- Eliezerfic fight conclusion + +blocks to fit somewhere— +_ the hill he wants to die on (insert somewhere in "Standing") +_ Tail vs. Bailey / Davis vs. Yudkowsky analogy (new block somewhere) +_ mention that "Not Man for the Categories" keeps getting cited + ------ @@ -1380,6 +1421,10 @@ Still citing it (19 Sep 22): https://twitter.com/ingalala/status/156839169106472 https://arbital.greaterwrong.com/p/logical_dt/?l=5gc It even leaked into Big Yud!!! "Counterfactuals were made for humanity, not humanity for counterfactuals." +At least I don't have to link the rebuttal myself every time: +https://www.datasecretslox.com/index.php/topic,1553.msg38755.html +https://old.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/10vx6gk/the_categories_were_made_for_man_not_man_for_the/j7k8fjc/ + ------ If you _have_ intent-to-inform and occasionally end up using your megaphone to say false things (out of sloppiness or motivated reasoning in the passion of the moment), it's actually not that big of a deal, as long as you're willing to acknowledge corrections. (It helps if you have critics who personally hate your guts and therefore have a motive to catch you making errors, and a discerning audience who will only reward the critics for finding real errors and not fake errors.) In the long run, the errors cancel out. @@ -2706,7 +2751,7 @@ I thought I should have avoided the 2022 Valinor party to avoid running into him https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/1684947017502433281 > Keir Starmer agrees that a woman is an adult human female. Will Ed Davey also rejoin the real world, science & the English language by reversing his view that a woman can "quite clearly" have a penis? Inability to face reality in small things bodes ill for more serious matters. -Analysis of my writing mistake (show this to Jackie!!) +Analysis of my writing mistake https://twitter.com/shroomwaview/status/1681742799052341249 ------ @@ -2736,3 +2781,31 @@ Yudkowsky on EA criticism contest https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/HyHCkK3aDsfY95MoD/cea-ev-op-rp-should-engage-an-independent-investigator-to?commentId=kgHyydoX5jT5zKqqa Yudkowsky says "we" are not to blame for FTX, but wasn't early Alameda (the Japan bitcoint arbitrage) founded as an earn-to-give scheme, and recrutied from EA? + +https://twitter.com/aditya_baradwaj/status/1694355639903080691 +> [SBF] wanted to build a machine—a growing sphere of influence that could break past the walls of that little office in Berkeley and wash over the world as a force for good. Not just a company, but a monument to effective altruism. + +Scott November 2020: "I think we eventually ended up on the same page" +https://www.datasecretslox.com/index.php/topic,1553.msg38799.html#msg38799 + +SK on never making a perfectly correct point +https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/P3FQNvnW8Cz42QBuA/dialogue-on-appeals-to-consequences#Z8haBdrGiRQcGSXye + +Scott on puberty blockers, dreadful: https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/highlights-from-the-comments-on-fetishes + +https://jdpressman.com/2023/08/28/agi-ruin-and-the-road-to-iconoclasm.html + +https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/BahoNzY2pzSeM2Dtk/beware-of-stephen-j-gould +> there comes a point in self-deception where it becomes morally indistinguishable from lying. Consistently self-serving scientific "error", in the face of repeated correction and without informing others of the criticism, blends over into scientific fraud. + +https://time.com/collection/time100-ai/6309037/eliezer-yudkowsky/ +> "I expected to be a tiny voice shouting into the void, and people listened instead. So I doubled down on that." + +----- + +bullet notes for Tail analogy— + * My friend Tailcalled is better at science than me; in the hours that I've wasted with personal, political, and philosophical writing, he's actually been running surveys and digging into statistical methodology. + * As a result of his surveys, Tail was convinced of the two-type taxonomy, started /r/Blanchardianism, &c. + * Arguing with him resulted in my backing away from pure BBL ("Useful Approximation") + * Later, he became disillusioned with "Blanchardians" and went to war against them. I kept telling him he _is_ a "Blanchardian", insofar as he largely agrees with the main findings (about AGP as a major cause). He corresponded with Bailey and became frustrated with Bailey's ridigity. Blanchardians market themselves as disinterest truthseekers, but a lot of what they're actually doing is providing a counternarrative to social justice. + * There's an analogy between Tail's antipathy for Bailey and my antipathy for Yudkowsky: I still largely agree with "the rationalists", but the way especially Yudkowsky markets himself as a uniquely sane thinker