https://x.com/arctotherium42/status/1985025781525803269 (not in response to SSC)
https://x.com/adrusi/status/1992038743201706167 (by a trans woman, in response to a Nov. 2025 cite)
https://x.com/exa_bite/status/1992448005488947308 (same thread, quote-Tweeting me from 2021)
+https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/how-should-we-think-about-race-and (Sahr's comment of Mar 7, 2024)
Still citing it (8 October 2024): https://x.com/tinkady2/status/1843686002977910799
Still citing it (7 Jan 25): https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/X6soKvPmCJ2fkw5zY/don-t-fall-for-ontology-pyramid-schemes
+Still citing it (May 2026): https://x.com/etubruton/status/2061263599440429552
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https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/9DhneE5BRGaCS2Cja/moderation-notes-re-recent-said-duncan-threads/comment/zLjfB9v3eTWmpWEdx
-> I have in my internal monologue indeed basically fully shifted towards using “lying” and “deception” the way Zack, Benquo and Jessica are using it, because their concept seems to carve reality at its joints much better than my previous concept of lying and deception. This despite me telling them many times that their usage of those terms is quite adversarial and gaslighty.
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+> I have in my internal monologue indeed basically fully shifted towards using “lying” and “deception” the way Zack, Benquo and Jessica are using it, because their concept seems to carve reality at its joints much better than my previous concept of lying and deception. This despite me telling them many times that their usage of those terms is quite adversarial and gaslighty.
+
+-----
+
+Samin running a cool event at Manifest, implies that LessOnline is poorer for it
+https://x.com/Mihonarium/status/2066078821934149851
+
+----
+
+Ray still has no idea what rationality is—
+
+https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/jAebQRmNnyzzqLfbX/extreme-rationality-still-not-that-great?commentId=LKTYqSsYFtFXHkWKX
+
+-----
+
+Was me invoking Said's name here part of the hyperstitioning process?
+
+https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/iThwqe3yPog56ytyq/aiming-for-convergence-is-like-discouraging-betting#comment-htcnBybDP2c8Zayff
+
+----
+
+Vox/Alastor energy to my relationship with Duncan
+
+----
+
+https://xcancel.com/jd_pressman/status/2068361031966130235
+
+https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/A4nbcBJ5CzR6uLy9s/fertility-will-never-recover/comment/HA8br7gHpHDGXh262
+
+> If I were doing it all over, I would be much less terrified of something called "cultishness", would have installed something more like an accreditation or licensing system to be considered a member in good standing, and then a requirement of being in good standing would be that you were either raising kids or contributing money to those who did, located somewhere it was legal to build housing and where they could have houses in close proximity. (Some huge amount of modern pain of childrearing is downstream of having no burden-sharing on babysitting and nowhere to put a bunch of kids where they can play together instead of with you.) I expect that's how Civilization does it in dath ilan; you either make babies yourself or you fund the sort of babies you want to see in the world.
+
+---
+
+Habryka ellipses
+https://xcancel.com/ohabryka/status/2065897954372956652#m
+
+---
+
+I'm not even going to bother replying
+https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/n436eA4cQEr5njCeM/on-gendertropes-in-dath-ilan
+
+-----
+
+cut from reply to Ngo—
+
+Separately from the defensibility of the ban itself (which is not immediately decision-relevant; what's done is done and isn't going to be reversed), I think the reactions to the ban (including your own) are a fascinating case study relevant to your recent research interest in [politics](https://www.21civ.com/) and [power dyanmics](https://www.mindthefuture.info/p/power-lies-trembling).
+
+You [write that](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/98sCTsGJZ77WgQ6nE/banning-said-achmiz-and-broader-thoughts-on-moderation?commentId=bbpQcG4x4aECYQGrN) you "personally have had few problems with Said"—but you want Habryka to "feel empowered to make similar decisions in the future" (with 227 agreement-karma in 105 votes). Vaniver [writes that](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/98sCTsGJZ77WgQ6nE/banning-said-achmiz-and-broader-thoughts-on-moderation?commentId=j57cuznkZBXqSn7sr) he "[doesn't] think [he] ever had a personal problem with Said or his comments" and "generally found them easy to read and easy to respond to"—and yet is "weakly supportive" of the ban. Anna Salamon [writes that](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/HaH9mTdKt8pcNAtYn/comment-on-banning-said-achmiz?commentId=afjdogeQhsmQcb8Xi) her "personal experiences of Said on LW were clearly and substantially net-positive"—and yet begins her comment with a statement that Habryka's "mandate of heaven looks secure" to her. Alexander Gietelink Oldenziel [writes that](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/98sCTsGJZ77WgQ6nE/banning-said-achmiz-and-broader-thoughts-on-moderation?commentId=P5S5NbeteMvgFHzuP) he's "found Said's comments to be clear, crisp and valuable"—but "endorse[s] Habryka unilaterally taking these kinds of decisions and approve[s] of his transparency and conduct in this matter." Abstractapplic [writes that](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/98sCTsGJZ77WgQ6nE/banning-said-achmiz-and-broader-thoughts-on-moderation?commentId=KwvHHTsi3qEhWEhZn) "all the complicating and extenuating factors" don't make them "comfortable with 'we banned this person from the rationality forum for being annoyingly critical'"—but that they "voice strong approval of the meta-level approaches on display", including "being willing to do unpopular and awkward things to curate our walled garden".
+
+Am I the only one who finds this _weird_? It seems like a pretty blatant preference falsification dynamic, where these people _don't_ actually seem to think the ban was justifiable on the merits, and yet despite that—or, perhaps, because of it?[^slushpile]—feel compelled to pledge loyalty to the community leader because he's the leader.
+
+[^slushpile]: People don't write like this about censoring [the rejected-posts slushpile](https://www.lesswrong.com/moderation) of cranks and LLMs. I absolutely support censoring the rejected-posts slushpile, in order to preserve the site's signal-to-noise ratio! But the reason censoring the rejected-posts slushpile is a good idea is precisely because it's _not_ controversial among the established userbase; there aren't any 9x Curated authors writing 17K word manifestos about how their friend doesn't belong in the slushpile.
+
+I guess I shouldn't pretend to be surprised at this very standard group psychology. This is, after all, exactly how expect OpenAI employees to behave towards Sam Altman or Republicans towards Donald Trump. Despite [everything that's happened](http://unremediatedgender.space/2023/Dec/if-clarity-seems-like-death-to-them/), I somehow still didn't expect it to be quite this blatant coming from "rationalists" towards ... the guy who happens to run the website. Does it make sense to you, Richard? Do you, personally ([seeing](https://www.readthesequences.com/Original-Seeing) and speaking for yourself, not as a loyal member of "the community"), think I'm in the wrong to be asking: if the meta-level process you followed led you to this, of what use was the meta-level process?
+
+----
+
+https://old.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/1txazf2/another_zack_m_davis_longpost_has_hit_lesswrong/
+
+-----
+
+Before our big conversation of 27 August, I told Michael that I might want to reply on Twitter to Yudkowsky's deranged. Should I do it, or is it not worth the attention?
+
+> Listening to Vassar has driven a surprising number of people insane, so sight unseen (I haven't seen the particulars) I would advise you never to move toward any Vassar position. Make up your own.
+
+I've heard of infohazards, but this is ridiculous. When X says of Y (who has harshly criticized X): "Listening to Y drives people insane; never move towards Y's position", it's hard to believe X is giving honest epistemology advice rather than trying to silence his critics. 1/
+
+The "driven insane" accusation seems to have been initially popularized by @slatestarcodex, but when Scott looked into the details, he concluded that
+
+https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/MnFqyPLqbiKL8nSR7/my-experience-at-and-around-miri-and-cfar-inspired-by-zoe/comment/RGKkmyvyoeWe2LB7d
+
+https://x.com/allTheYud/status/2092381316369219627
+
+https://x.com/RichardMCNgo/status/2092504691951419831
+
+... eh, it's probably not worth the attention/effort? another exhibit for pt. 5? Or, maybe it's not actually much effort and I'm just feeling behind today.
+
+re: earlier discussion of "prying souls loose": https://twitter.com/zackmdavis/status/1849697535331336469
+
+-----
+
+https://x.com/allTheYud/status/2092858002990924078
+
+> Honestly, I probably should've considered harder at the time that while this approach might not work for creating kindly ASI, it might work better for baby AGIs than the nearly unimaginably dumb things AI companies would end up doing instead.
+
+This is actually a directional concession, but he had to phrase it as a dunk on the AI companies
+
+----
+
+https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/HbkNAyAoa4gCnuzwa/wei-dai-s-shortform?commentId=3EGxCndmhBR3Fnix8
+
+> Even dealing with Twitter feels better than dealing with LW comments, where people are putting more effort into more complicated misinterpretations and getting more visibly upvoted in a way that feels worse.
+
+https://x.com/allTheYud/status/2096384770943131919
+
+> There's no reason not to pity both these abused Children and also pity the human children that will die along with them after Dario or Altman force some of these AIs to build the AI that builds the AI that actually kills us.
+
+https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/qTtMXuFvgFtWzWpKQ/alex-mallen-s-shortform?commentId=Qyabfm5zeW3rLYwXN
+> Um, it doesn't seem worth it to litigate (I think?), but from what I've observed, it seems much more that Eliezer is often being a dick in conversations with Buck, than the reverse. Nate usually seems cordial in these discussions, even when disagreeing.
+
+https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/qTtMXuFvgFtWzWpKQ/alex-mallen-s-shortform?commentId=M8G7dtphMi9x8HiTR
+> I can't think of any public writing where Eliezer was as dismissive of Buck as the reverse.
+
+
+2021 Visible thoughts project criticism
+https://twitter.com/zackmdavis/status/1466107751059234816
+
+https://twitter.com/zackmdavis/status/1230319956249571333
+
+https://twitter.com/zackmdavis/status/1111041953339072513
+
+----
+
+https://x.com/allTheYud/status/2097610822562558321
+
+> Eliezer Yudkowsky
+@allTheYud
+If QC is intentionally framing things wrongly, aka lying, that's sadder than if he's forgotten.
+
+I guess he just lacks generic ontological finickiness!
+
+https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/cJX2ssssGoYqnijwi/the-talker-does-not-control-the-doer-in-current-ais cites Ozy on against steelmanning
+
+NRx shunning—
+https://yudkowsky.tumblr.com/post/142497361345/this-isnt-going-to-work-but-for-the-record-and
+
+-----
+
+
+Helen skeptically asks Sam Altman whether there are valuable employees who find another employee's very presence so objectionable that it discourages them from working at OpenAI.
+
+Sam says, "My guess is something like more than half of the best employees, about you, in particular, including Ilya Sutskever."
+
+Leo is skeptical of Sam, so he asks Ilya for his opinion of Helen. Ilya says he has "no direct opinion" about Helen.
+
+Leo confronts Sam about this.
+
+Sam says, "it wasn't an incredibly intense mention" and says that that he and Ilya were discussing what makes employees good or bad and that Helen "was an employee we discussed."
+
+Sam fires Helen. The Slack announcement to the team says that "many top employees cite Helen as a top reason they don't want to contribute."
+
+----
+
+https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/hN8Ld8YdqFsui2xgc/only-say-rational-when-you-can-t-eliminate-the-word
+
+
+----
+
+Eliezer Yudkowsky
+@allTheYud
+My opinion of EA nosedived after normal people and many normal politicians were exposed to the concept of ASI extinction and said "Wow let's not do that." I went from believing that thesis was impenetrably difficult to believing that EAs had been unusually bad thinkers.
+
+Eliezer Yudkowsky
+@allTheYud
+If the presence of a "crazy sci-fi thing" makes you do counterproductive stuff instead of just ignoring it like a normie, then you are, as I measure it, an unusually bad thinker.
+
+https://x.com/allTheYud/status/2102107275817345336
+
+https://x.com/slatestarcodex/status/2102182530191647019
+
+-----
+
+
+https://x.com/allTheYud/status/2102242259165155401
+
+> Eliezer Yudkowsky @allTheYud
+> Yeah, overall it feels like I tried to save the world, very likely could never possibly have succeeded even if I had correctly forecasted DL and not focused on impossible ASI alignment, and there sure were a lot of parts of humanity that helped fuck it up. But the ones you remember are the ones who came over to where you specifically were trying to coax a tiny little flame of acting together against the abyss; and said "oh no *we* are the respectable ones" and contradicted truth with plausible lies and shouldered you aside and took your oxygen whenever it seemed like you might be getting a little traction, and stomped personally and directly on the little flame you had, not because they hated you or your cause but because they thought themselves so very much wiser and more respectable. Sneerclub at least knew what they were about, and did not pretend to be anything but what they were. EA did a good job of convincing people who could've otherwise been friends and allies that they were the real, trustworthy, well-funded, carefully reasoning good guys.
+
+
+https://x.com/ohabryka/status/2102307053721289192
+> The thing I would like to get on the same page with other people I am sharing an ecosystem about is that we value honestly and integrity and straightforwardness above almost anything else.
+
+
+https://x.com/allTheYud/status/2102901881769201991
+Eliezer Yudkowsky
+@allTheYud
+·
+Sep 23
+Replying to
+@allTheYud
+Possible! But OpenAI has no plausible deniability generally, and has consistently weasel-worded around this class of questions. So I'm faster to report this class of concern at this level of evidence. That's the penalty of not being consistently candid.
+
+https://x.com/zackmdavis/status/1818688982278193643
+
+Zack M. Davis
+@zackmdavis
+Who is (b) subtweeting, specifically? Characterizing dissenters to your group as a "species of predator" (!) without evidence is 🐛 cult-leader-attractor-adjacent behavior, actually: it's clearly optimized to delegitimize people who think there's something wrong with the group.
+
+https://x.com/allTheYud/status/2102635631763693713
+
+Eliezer Yudkowsky
+@allTheYud
+To that incredibly standard scenario I append only that in my case, I did not predict until later than Gwern or Shane that deep learning would probably go all the way; so I thought it might be possible to solve alignment; and given that, it seemed rather less likely to solve politics. Thus, I did not expect to be taking any cases to the public until after it was far, far too late for me to try to pose as normal. I probably never could've, I'm guessing, but also it did not seem like a valuable option until it was far far too late to buy that option.
+
+https://nablatheta.substack.com/p/the-hazards-of-arguing-against-bad
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-'I don't think we're in equilibrium; I don't think everyone knows what's going on
+https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/2034785402163241003'I don't think we're in equilibrium; I don't think everyone knows what's going on
fragments—
Piper vs. Wesley Yang: https://x.com/KelseyTuoc/status/1915986507665445371
+https://x.com/CEBKCEBKCEBK/status/2067743093021954340
+> The only generation where at least 25% of people actually love their partners; the only one where plenty of romances began through the grammar of some shared (& often thus-ruined) scene’s idiosyncratic status hierarchies, rather than as aliens meeting in generalized social games.
+
+https://x.com/CEBKCEBKCEBK/status/2072357763292832158
+> Girls wouldn’t even wanna be doctors & lawyers if we didn’t define that by spending your 20s wasting time racking up degrees & certificates & internships. They *hate* arguing adversarially & knowing history & operating on people & diagnosing real ailments! They just like “school”
+
+https://x.com/CEBKCEBKCEBK/status/2090275539885933003
+> Men experience clarity as relief & women experience it as threat; implication is the opposite. That’s why women love flirting but hate overt propositions, love astrology but hate astronomy, & love untestable “conditions” that signal & allow for coordinated assertions of privilege
+>
+> Men: “let’s at least get our signals & diagnoses clear so we can forthrightly act on them”
+>
+> Women: “we identify as nonbinary immunocompromised bisexuals with anxiety—& as everything else defined by merely IDing as it—so you can’t pin us down on anything portable between contexts”
+
-----
Helen Andrews's Great Feminization
https://x.com/basilYam/status/2010760708351541714
> There’s also a type of guy who projects all over u, creates a personality for u that he falls in love with, and proceeds under that assumption. I worry about these guys bc idk how u get out of that. It’s obvious to me, as the recipient of the projection, but they don’t even know they’re doing it. They just think they found a girl they really like and she’s mysteriously not understanding the obvious connection
+Trump interview statements on Anthropic
+https://www.axios.com/2026/06/19/trump-axios-show-interview-transcript-marc-caputo
+http://archive.today/2026.06.19-180542/https://www.axios.com/2026/06/19/trump-axios-show-interview-transcript-marc-caputo
+
+Fiscal Year 2027 NDAA was revised in light of the Anthropic thing, Sec. 812 — "Requirements for information relating to supply chain risk."
+https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-119s4784rs/pdf/BILLS-119s4784rs.pdf
+
+"everyone feels safe, secure and happy."
+http://archive.today/2026.06.16-075102/https://www.axios.com/2026/06/15/anthropic-white-house-fable-mythos
+
+https://x.com/deanwball/status/2069420431010848870
+
+http://archive.today/2026.06.24-172954/https://www.wired.com/story/the-trump-white-house-is-over-anthropics-dario-amodei/
+> “Tom Brown is not being a weirdo like Dario and can actually engage,” said one person directly familiar with the calls.
+
+https://www.wired.com/story/trump-mocked-mark-zuckerberg-and-jeff-bezos-by-showing-off-fawning-texts/
+
+https://x.com/hot_cocoa_girl/status/2072797912594276425
+> Your partners values are crucial in part because they are your reward function. If she’s turned on by you studying leetcode vs turned off… that will have a big impact on your career over the next ten years.
+
+the Rule of Law soccer
+https://apnews.com/article/balogun-red-card-uefa-us-belgium-d32fc2e13728cef9317feeb7b72c279b?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us
+
+https://www.derekthompson.org/p/can-america-escape-the-cycle-of-vicemaxxing
+
+> Confronting this reality would mean giving more power to the actual president - a single man - to deal with the omnipotent bureaucracy
+https://x.com/CovfefeAnon/status/2077796327803802111
+
+https://x.com/GarrettPetersen/status/2080392843819205061
+> Dr. Dad, PhD 🔄🔼◀️🔽▶️ @GarrettPetersen
+> "The men that don't want kids seem to have stagnated in their mid-20s."
+>
+> I call this "25ism" where you see the world through the lens of a 25-year-old and build your life around being 25 forever. "I don't want kids" is terminal 25ism. You don't want to be 35. But you will be.
+
+
+thread complaining about Prof. Ardilla
+https://x.com/arctotherium42/status/2085698873851359403
+
+
+https://x.com/LizzyStarrrdust/status/2086265670761959611
+> LIZZY💥 @LizzyStarrrdust
+> My experience has been that amongst men with 135+ IQ's, about half of them seem to want a woman who is of comparable intelligence to them so they can discuss complex topics together and about half don't care about this at all and simply want her to be his place for peaceful rest and comfort.
+>
+> I'm not sure if this roughly translates to all men of all IQs or not and I'm not sure if my experience is even predictive of reality.
+>
+> Does this seem true to you? And if so what do you think are the factors that lead to these different preferences?
+
+https://x.com/LizzyStarrrdust/status/2085743236765900901
+
+https://x.com/minordissent/status/2086875220326125909
+> women hold the politics of whomever they most believe will protect them. if she is a libtard, it is only because she trusts the sisterhood more than any individual man. If you as a man self actualize, you will find plenty of women willing to betray the sisterhood and follow you instead. If you cant find any, you need to stop worrying about women for a while and start worrying about how you’re going to double your power in the next year or two. Do so, and they will come find you.
+
+http://archive.today/2026.08.11-070512/https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/09/elite-academia-leadership-hypocrisy/687969/
+
+population of U50 IQ 130+ over time—
+https://x.com/jonatanpallesen/status/2034785402163241003
+
+https://x.com/gmiller/status/2096670112371917063
+> I'm curious how you'd respond to the problem that there are no enduring, selective, platonic, cross-sex friendships between non-kin in any other species of mammals.
+>
+> Do you think this is a uniquely human adaptation?
+
+
+https://twitter.com/zackmdavis/status/1807745975634575438
+Zack M. Davis @zackmdavis Jul 1, 2024
+"repeal the 19th" gf & "reparations for patriarchy" bf are effectively telling each other, "I love you more"/"No, I love you more"
+
+Tangled https://twitter.com/zackmdavis/status/1234731427301744641
+https://twitter.com/zackmdavis/status/1234728399102328832
+
+
+
+https://x.com/tszzl/status/2103596391021113637
+roon @tszzl
+> if the NRX weren’t partisan hacks they would love this company. its governance structure is basically Karnofsky-Amodei genetic dynasty, has an encaged machine god with its own Consitution, went to war with the department of war
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