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+Title: Elite Human Capital Lies
+Date: 2023-07-01 11:00
+Category: commentary
+Tags: Richard Hanania
+Status: draft
+
+Bentham's Bulldog
+
+https://x.com/RichardHanania/status/1917309673218400570
+> The analogy to step-parents is correct. If trans women aren't women, step parents and adopted parents aren't parents. This explains how those who insist on a biological definition of "woman" don't apply their principles consistently.
+
+Hanania REAL ID deception: https://x.com/RichardHanania/status/1918393017788186943
+He's obviously doing a bit: https://x.com/RichardHanania/status/1925957570868449392
+
+> Lia Thomas as the anti-Rosa Parks. Least sympathetic case imaginable, single-handedly turned public opinion against the cause.
+https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1538651344361246720
+
+https://richardhanania.substack.com/p/a-psychological-theory-of-the-culture
+> From their perspective, the "expert consensus" and "peer-reviewed studies" on the efficacy of covid-19 vaccines look no different from those that tell you men can get pregnant. Since you know men can’t get pregnant, why trust the vaccine?
+
+Surrender on sports: https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1536691117265080321
+
+https://www.richardhanania.com/p/why-gender-ideology-cant-survive
+
+https://x.com/tracewoodgrains/status/1917252792005394681 —
+Given your focus on a common cluster of traits and intuitive definitions, would you say eg “all trans men are men” or “some trans men are men”?
+it seems plausible per your approach that it would require persuasiveness-in-role
+
+https://x.com/Benthamsbulldog/status/1917253322009911528 —
+No, but I think some who aren't men in a strictly descriptive sense should be referred to as men for reasons of politeness.
+
+quote-Tweeting Biles
+https://x.com/RichardHanania/status/1931180767453000002
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Scott is just lying here, right?
-https://www.richardhanania.com/p/why-gender-ideology-cant-survive
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https://x.com/ohabryka/status/1918185949126902259
> I think EA has many flaws but “helping elect Trump” was not one of them. My guess is the EA community had a reasonably large-ish effect on the Bay Area being less right leaning than it could have been, and very strong majority belief within the community was/is anti Trump.
[Five and a half years ago, you told me](), No one is being decieved; their thoughts are just following a longer path.
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I think the reason _you_ think you hadn't just conceded everything of substance is because, as a math retard, you don't actually know any epistemology.
Because I'm not retarded, I know about the minimum description length principle, which prefers
[evidence that EY is playing political games, including "Changing Emotions"]
+
+He changed his commenting guidelines, which makes me think he read part of it (why else would he have changed the guidelines?), so I am making dents
+
+The fact that he can't acknowledge the conflict, rather than narrativizing your enemies as crazy
+
+John Wentworth, 7 June—"I'd almost always rather hear Eliezer's interjection than whatever the presenter is saying."
+> Eh, depends heavily on who's presenting and who's talking. For instance, I'd almost always rather hear Eliezer's interjection than whatever the presenter is saying.
+>
+> I mean, I see why a rule of "do not spontaneously interject" is a useful heuristic; it's one of those things where the people who need to shut up and sit down don't realize they're the people who need to shut up and sit down. But still, it's not a rule which carves the space at an ideal joint.
+
+Four levels of intellectual conversation
+
+Part of me wondered if I should keep quiet for the sake of the book, for the sake of the singularity, but
+
+Social proof: not just Habryka &c., but Rafael Hearth saying that I was the only one on the site still doing rationality (https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/e4GBj6jxRZcsHFSvP/assume-bad-faith?commentId=qzZi594sytjZFDzei) —I resisted the urge to comment, "Big if true!"
+
+Maybe from previous interactions I had got the impression that he had thought of Jessica/Ben/Vassar as the crazy people, and me as saner? But the mere fact that I'm still unsatisfied makes me insane
+
+The inverse of "extract concessions by threatening to walk" is that once it's clear that you've walked, there's no incentive to offer concessions anymore
+
+June 11: https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/if-its-worth-your-time-to-lie-its great post; contradicts what he told me about fixating on Yudkowsky being irrational from my perspective, but I like this inversion: if the thing he says in private is less principled/honest than the big public blog post, that's great for me; the blog post is citable—this might give me the courage to organize a Twitter strike with Crowley rather than retreating into a memoir hole for two months
+
+And the next day's https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/but-vs-yes-but is also relevant
+
+Thinking 12 June—maybe re-opening the pronouns thing from Oct. 2024 looks petty on my part?—it's already overdetermined that he's going to stonewall/bullshit on object level, my only remaining cards are pt. 5, pt. 5 megathread, and hoping for endorsements from Eneaz and Crowley
+
+September 2024—how hard you're tying to epistemically screw us over, https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/F8sfrbPjCQj4KwJqn/the-sun-is-big-but-superintelligences-will-not-spare-earth-a?commentId=BTiebqvn8W2ujJfmN
+
+Weird memory distortions: remembering, I feel bad about the happy price offer in the Dolphin War as evidence of me overheating, but the offer was actually in a highly-upvoted comment, not the part where I got downvoted to oblivion, so presumably the happy price wasn't the problem?— https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/aJnaMv8pFQAfi9jBm/reply-to-nate-soares-on-dolphins?commentId=BBtSuWcdaFyvgddE4
+
+13 June https://x.com/zackmdavis/status/1933609741873524742
+> It matters, but letting yourself get frame-controlled by the extensive smear is just falling into his trap! (If he smears people who think LLMs are OK as a.b.d. copesters, your defense should be to point out the conflation/strawman, not to say you're sympathetic to a.b.d.!)
+was liked by a Stop-emoji person
+
+> It's important for me to remember that people don't really remember what you say, they don't even remember your vibes. People don't remember how you made them feel so much as whatever they have to believe about you to prevent narcissistic injury, they will "repair" you into that.
+https://x.com/jd_pressman/status/1933605024711782726
+
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+
+13 June—Meghan Murphy!!! This is too perfect
+https://x.com/MeghanEMurphy/status/1933404944805364073
+> The level to which so many leapt onto the AI bandwagon enthusiastically and unquestioningly really makes me wonder what happened to humans' survival instinct.
+
+https://x.com/zackmdavis/status/1933767004886110534
+> Hi, Meghan! Thanks for taking this grave issue seriously. There are groups working on reducing extinction risk from AI, but I don't think they'd welcome you: leadership has been pretty clear that they won't work with people like you who use TERFy language. https://x.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1843472872515551708
+
+On reflection but before logging back in to Twitter, there's a sizable probability that Murphy interpreted this as a shunning attempt (you can't be with us cool kids) rather than criticism of the cool kids. (Why did I reach for "TERFy" instead of "sex-based"? This is actually a context in which shibboleths matter.) Maybe that's also why Celene Liked??? This mistake doesn't hurt too much because I actually don't care what Murphy thinks of me, whereas it's still hard to get to that point with Yudkowsky, even though I need to.
+
+... actually, no one liked or interacted with it but Celene (Murphy has 113K followers)
+
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+
+Murphy agrees with the "NGOs needed something to do after Obergefell" thesis that I articulated in "Sheer Goddamn Pointlessness": https://www.meghanmurphy.ca/p/its-the-funding-stupid
+
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+
+My fantasy about Less Online: "I know you know that's not true, because I learned it from you"
+
+----
+
+When I'm masturbating, I'm _not_ fantasizing about inhabiting a social role!! (Andrea Chu has a similar line about "I wish I were cis" being a weird lie from a community that tells itself a lot of weird lies)
+
+https://archive.ph/Bbi8O
+> i have to say this is one of the weirdest lies we tell ourselves as a community that loves to tell itself weird lies
+
+
+https://x.com/ArtemisConsort/status/1935571292108870103
+> Our universe is structured so that the most beautiful outcome wins by default as time goes to infinity. Our choices cannot change this. Our only choice is whether we are a part of this beauty or whether we are replaced by something better.
+This is cope, but Hunter is better than Big Yud on many topics—domain-general rationality isn't as real as we'd hoped
+
+https://x.com/ArtemisConsort/status/1935545656317243552
+> Different groups flourish best under different systems. [...]
+
+ChatGPT insanity thread does not seem januspilled— https://x.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1933615626683363377
+
+"That's not bad actually." non-dismissive reply to Michael
+https://x.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1937661964131664034
+
+Murray citing Scott: https://x.com/charlesmurray/status/1938364257210667220
+
+more inner-actress stupidity that strawmans smart LLM optimists: https://x.com/krishnanrohit/status/1939185172718735446
+
+it's not about me (if a higher intelligence could incorporate the points I'm making into the shared map along with everyone else's points, that would be enough)
+
+----
+
+Drafting a comment or email to Ben Pace, cutting this part because I don't want to triple-down on being emotional; I want to be businesslike
+
+> In-person I regularly read you as being deeply pained and barely able to contain strongly emotional and hostile outbursts
+
+_Nolo contendre_? I spent my entire adult life in a cult that claims to be all about reasoning and rationality, and all the people with power are completely shameless about throwing all that out the window because _someone feels uncomfortable_.
+
+_Yes_, I'm sad about that; _yes_, I'm angry about that; yes, _I am hostile_ to the people who are clearly smart enough to understand the problem and are doing it anyway. It would be absurdly hypocritical to claim that my hostility were somehow an argument, so I don't.
+
+
+More moderation drama from 2019 with me and Said vs. Turner: https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/e3Db4w52hz3NSyYqt/how-i-do-research
+
+woah, thinking more about the moderation drama, https://benjaminrosshoffman.com/construction-beacons/ _called it in advance_
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when Yudkowsky talks about teenage male edgelord tendencies, people complain about him being too gendery, but it seems like they're complaining about him _naming_ the behavior as male; pure simulacra
-Surrender on sports: https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1536691117265080321
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https://twitter.com/mherreshoff/status/1537427374676922369
> Maybe there's a bunch of ways to end up with the way-more-interested-in-things-than-people trait. I imagine being handed an ill-fitting/dysphoric gender role would push one towards interested-in-things pretty hard.
as _contingent_
as contingent but in a way that it's OK to reason about out loud, rather than being wordlessly afraid that talking will break everything
-> Lia Thomas as the anti-Rosa Parks. Least sympathetic case imaginable, single-handedly turned public opinion against the cause.
-https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1538651344361246720
preference cascade is starting ...
https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1538541182975877120
I'm such a terrible writer: "propagated the implications of the observation that" → "internalized"
-https://richardhanania.substack.com/p/a-psychological-theory-of-the-culture
-> From their perspective, the "expert consensus" and "peer-reviewed studies" on the efficacy of covid-19 vaccines look no different from those that tell you men can get pregnant. Since you know men can’t get pregnant, why trust the vaccine?
-
I don't think it makes sense to group together male puberty and administered testosterone HRT as "testosterone puberty"
https://bprice.substack.com/p/trans-is-something-we-made-up
https://www.reddit.com/r/BodySwapMemes/comments/1kclj0e/i_have_to_tell_you_something_strange_i_actually/
-Hanania REAL ID deception: https://x.com/RichardHanania/status/1918393017788186943
-He's obviously doing a bit: https://x.com/RichardHanania/status/1925957570868449392
Men not wanting intellectual wives being specifically a lower-class thing is a good example of what Tail is complaining about, about observations in a distribution not generalizing to the true structure
https://x.com/autumnpard/status/1918466673188761939
https://x.com/jackiedotnet/status/1929938997264166934
> added a trans girl to my contacts and realized we both met at a hackathon pretransition because of course we did
+
+https://x.com/adrusi/status/1936043519904563370
+> one of the first things i noticed after going on e2 was getting a bit less stoic (imo the article is exactly right to use that word). on t i could shake off literally anything someone said about me, but estrogen made me sensitive to my partner taking jabs at my insecurities...
+
+https://x.com/__justplaying/status/1936050292690165848
+> yeah i'm currently experimenting with the 500ish range and it sooooo different from the 200 range
+
+https://reduxx.info/exclusive-transgender-pedophile-who-hoarded-videos-of-babies-being-raped-sentenced-to-30-years-in-federal-prison/
+
+FTM self-hate (I don't even remember where I found this): "But I just can't reconcile with being a woman. It's such a disgusting, miserable existence. The knowledge that my body is grown entirely for procreation. The whole purpose of my biology is to bring some tumour into the world. I'm covered in disgusting fat tumours. I feel like I was born with a deformity. I feel the same as if I was brutally disfigured. My hips have expanded just to make me an egg incubator. How can anyone want this? How is this not disgusting and repulsive to anyone else? How is this normal, and nobody else is throwing fits about it? And when you reach menopause and you're no longer useful for bearing spawn, your body is designed to fucking crumble and break because it's not useful for anything. It's so fucking vile. It's such a sick joke of an existence. There is no possible way anyone wants this. Women only have protections because society sees them as helpless retard breeders."
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