Tags: autogynephilia
Status: draft
-"all gender dysphoric males who are not sexually oriented towards men are instead sexually oriented toward the thought or image of themselves as women"
+This, then, is Blanchard's dangerous idea: "all gender dysphoric males who are not sexually oriented towards men are instead sexually oriented toward the thought or image of themselves as women."
-Even if you weaken _all_ to _almost all_ (Anne Lawrence: "I am firmly convinced that the overwhelming majority—probably 98% or more—of cases of severe gender dysphoria in men arise in connection with either effeminate homosexuality or autogynephilia; most of the rare exceptions probably arise in connection with conditions such as schizophrenia and certain personality disorders"), or even _most_
+Even if you weaken _all_ to _almost all_ , or even _most_
+Anne Lawrence:
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+> I am firmly convinced that the overwhelming majority—probably 98% or more—of cases of severe gender dysphoria in men arise in connection with either effeminate homosexuality or autogynephilia; most of the rare exceptions probably arise in connection with conditions such as schizophrenia and certain personality disorders
"Why, yes, of course my female gender identity is an outgrowth of my paraphilic erotic desire to have a woman's body—after all, that's one of the two and probably only two causal pathways along which male-to-female sex reassignment could possibly seem like a good idea to someone, and you can probably already tell from my appearance and behavior that I'm not one of the androphilic kind."
* ppl can have false beliefs about themselves, have to infer explanations for behavior (picking the gift on the right)
* exact type of AGP and whether you remember it in childhood make a difference in how obvious the right answer is
-* ppl have heard a strawman of the theory, not read "Becoming What We Love"; innoculated against smart version of theory
+* ppl have heard a strawman of the theory, not read "Becoming What We Love"; innoculated against smart version of theory (Anne Vitale)
+* selection
+* incentives
the selection effect and the incentives are dual: ppl who notice AGP don't transition, people who transition convince selves AGP doesn't matter
type of dysphoria also matters
+trans women don't want to talk about it
+stright guys who regard it as a humiliating private kink don't want to talk about it
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+To visualize how this ends up looking in practice, I want you to consider the fictitious but (I claim) entirely realistic tale of Katherine and Mark.
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two fictional case studies: one with childhood AGP and interpersonal fantasy, another like me (Ranma 1/2, transformation fantasies, sex differences denial, encountering AGP first)
when they meet in Portland, they note their obvious similarities and know that they have to be the same type of thing (I'm actually trans, you're just AGP is not an option)
-Mark is like "You lying bastards!" and the first is like "You poor, soul, misled by the BBL lies"
-"That poor girl!"
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+Katherine looks at Mark with a sense of pity. "That poor girl, cowed by Bailey's vicious pseudoscientific lies!"
Mark looks at Katherine with a mixture of jealousy and contempt. "Wait. Wait a minute. So this _entire fucking time_, _actual trans women_ were really just _guys like me_ who were _less self-aware about it_, who had all the same happy romantic fantasies about being a girl, and then _took them literally_?! You bastards! You delusional bastards! You beautiful, lucky bastards who get all nice things I can't have, at the terrible cost of never being able to say _why_! I'm so upset about this that I feel motivated to start an entire pseudonymous blog dedicated to dismantling the shitty epistemology that led to this absurd situation!"
* Reduce Gender Identities to Gender Goals ("trans" vs. "cis" only makes sense if the gradient between full-transition intervention and no intervention is sufficiently sharp)
other commentary—
+because personal identity doesn't exist, comparing notes with other people and being able to learn from _their_ mistakes is more useful than just saying "everyone has their own experience"
psychological sex differences aren't real, but gender identity is?? always nurture except when politically convenient
Falsifiability and What We Expect Not to See (this is important for the Bayes crowd)
Bucketing (go through Wikipedia list of trans women, categorize everyone)
> Knowing his occupation and observing him briefly and superficially were sufficient, together, for me to guess confidently about aspects of Edwin's life that he never mentioned. I know what he was like as a boy. I know what kind of person he is sexually attracted to. I know what kinds of activities interest him and what kinds do not. I am least sure what he will look like five years from now.
—J. Michael Bailey, _The Man Who Would Be Queen: the Science of Gender-Bending and Transsexualism_, Preface
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+because we're not narcissists http://elegantgatheringofwhitesnows.com/?p=2270
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+quote Frozen on not being the right person to write this blog
+Don't let them in,
+don't let them see
+Be the good girl you always have to be
+Conceal, don't feel,
+don't let them know
+Well now they know
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