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-On 5 January 2019, I met with Michael and his associate Aurora Quinn-Elmore in San Francisco to attempt mediated discourse with [Ziz](https://web.archive.org/web/20230601015012/https://sinceriously.fyi/) and [Gwen](https://web.archive.org/web/20230308021910/https://everythingtosaveit.how/), who were considering suing the [Center for Applied Rationality](https://rationality.org/) (CfAR)[^what-is-cfar] for discriminating against trans women. Michael hoped to dissuade them from a lawsuit—not because he approved of CfAR's behavior, but because lawyers make everything worse.
+On 5 January 2019, I met with Michael and an associate of his in San Francisco to attempt mediated discourse with [Ziz](https://web.archive.org/web/20230601015012/https://sinceriously.fyi/) and [Gwen](https://web.archive.org/web/20230308021910/https://everythingtosaveit.how/), who were considering suing the [Center for Applied Rationality](https://rationality.org/) (CfAR)[^what-is-cfar] for discriminating against trans women. Michael hoped to dissuade them from a lawsuit—not because he approved of CfAR's behavior, but because lawyers make everything worse.
[^what-is-cfar]: CfAR had been spun off from MIRI in 2012 as a dedicated organization for teaching rationality.