From: Zack M. Davis Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 01:14:17 +0000 (-0700) Subject: check in X-Git-Url: http://unremediatedgender.space/source?a=commitdiff_plain;ds=sidebyside;p=Ultimately_Untrue_Thought.git check in --- diff --git a/content/drafts/guess-ill-die.md b/content/drafts/guess-ill-die.md index 0ff8398..cbf8cdd 100644 --- a/content/drafts/guess-ill-die.md +++ b/content/drafts/guess-ill-die.md @@ -449,3 +449,7 @@ On 1 April 2022, Yudkowsky published ["MIRI Announces New 'Death With Dignity' S In a way, "Death With Dignity" isn't really an update. Yudkowsky had always refused to name a "win" probability, while maintaining that Friendly AI was ["impossible"](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/nCvvhFBaayaXyuBiD/shut-up-and-do-the-impossible). Now, he says the probability is approximately zero. Paul Christiano, who has a much more optimistic picture of humanity's chances, nevertheless said that he liked the "dignity" heuristic. I like it, too. It—takes some of the pressure off. I [made an analogy](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/j9Q8bRmwCgXRYAgcJ/miri-announces-new-death-with-dignity-strategy?commentId=R59aLxyj3rvjBLbHg): your plane crashed in the ocean. To survive, you must swim to shore. You know that the shore is west, but you don't know how far. The optimist thinks the shore is just over the horizon; we only need to swim a few miles and we'll probably make it. The pessimist thinks the shore is a thousand miles away and we will surely die. But the optimist and pessimist can both agree on how far we've swum up to this point, and that the most dignified course of action is "Swim west as far as you can." + + + +### Under the Circumstances, I've Been Shockingly Nice (April–June 2025) \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/notes/memoir-sections.md b/notes/memoir-sections.md index 210720e..379869a 100644 --- a/notes/memoir-sections.md +++ b/notes/memoir-sections.md @@ -3205,9 +3205,40 @@ https://x.com/KelseyTuoc/status/1915986507665445371 Hanania retweet relapse—29 April: I'm not proud of the relapse of impotent hatred. It's good to take actions to call out dishonesty, but I should be calm and methodical and confident about it. Emotion is OK insofar as it motivates me to take action, but the action should be methodological +----- Section Title: Groundhog Day (reference Jessica's Tweet) +October 7 + +https://x.com/jessi_cata/status/1843535973478707677 +> But also... isn't this pattern of engagement, where EY posts some clever argument for going along with trans norms, you object, others back you up, and engagement dies down, and it happens again, kind of predictable by now? Is there a way out of the Groundhog Day loop? + +https://x.com/zackmdavis/status/1843537130230034762 +> Every iteration of the loop is a little bit different and I think I'm making slow incremental progress? + +https://x.com/zackmdavis/status/1843538797692367177 +> It wouldn't be worth bothering if only the object-level was at stake, but I don't think it's a coincidence that the Sequences-era version of Yudkowsky not only didn't play this game, but also didn't shamelessly misrepresent the content of ML papers. + +I wrote that at 11:27 p.m. on Oct. 7, linking to a criticism I had made of him on Oct 4 (https://x.com/zackmdavis/status/1842355473611358705) about a graph about transformers + +At 6:43 a.m. on Oct. 8, Yudkowsky replied "Noted. I'll avoid using that graph again until I've had time to track down original papers at least."; and Robert M. said I was too pessimistic about EY (https://x.com/rmushkatblat/status/1843694397692752357); I think the timing is not a coincidence; Yudkowsky offers the minimal concession when not doing it would make him look bad + +I told Robert (https://x.com/zackmdavis/status/1844142355370344875)— +> Pessimism is relative to expectations? It's only human to make errors like "citing evidence E to persuade people of X without checking whether E supports X". The Sequences gave a vision of a discipline for not doing that in the 1st place, without waiting for a critic to check E. + + +> Zack raises a question of what to do, but doesn't answer the question. So he's basically deferring to Eliezer's leadership on it. Eliezer can break the loop by taking a different decision, and Zack can break the loop by backing down or going more decisive. +> Realistically it's not in Zack's interest to go more decisive since it will burn a lot of bridges and probably he will also make a bunch of mistakes due to aimlessness. Zack has made the case for a different decision, but... it feels overdetermined that Eliezer would not accept. + +I said (https://x.com/zackmdavis/status/1843540357168116215)— +> There's a lot someone might dislike about my Dagny Taggart (continue trading with corrupt actors)/Phil Connors (continue Groundhog Day arguments) strategy, but I don't think "too indecisive" is exactly the right way to describe it + +I think I'm ready to be more decisive now + +----- + + https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/groups RadGeek covering Scott and Kelsey—total "rationalist" victory @@ -3291,3 +3322,60 @@ He previously said it's not a crime to stay silent and not make public confusion Milder: "By the way, since we happen to be in the same room, I have some more denunciations of you for intellectual dishonesty that I have not published yet. Do you want to try talking about it again, or should I just continue publicly denoucing you?" January 2025 gendertropes in dath ilan: https://x.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1884735897096384919 + +------ + +Jessica on MIRI secrecy: https://x.com/jessi_cata/status/1843544636159295897 + +Scott's "You're wrong" like the Noah Smith Tweet about hereditarianism being disproved because you could close the gaps with a hundred years of eugenics + +------ + + + + +Is there anything you can recommend from the psych literature or elsewhere about how to control emotions? + +When I apologized on Sunday, you said it wasn't a problem + + + +----------- + +Would you happen to be able to recommend anything in the psych literature or elsewhere about training emotional control? I'm still really disappointed with my behavior on Friday. Screaming at you didn't actually help any of my goals!! + +You said it wasn't a problem after I apologized on Sunday (and the fact that my subconscious could predict that you already have my emotional character "priced in" is probably why it thought it could get away with it), but it's still unbecoming. + +I feel like there ought to be some targeted "remember that you can scream into a pillow later; calmly compute the most effective thing to say when other people are watching" exercise that I haven't done. + +---- + +Have you ever noticed this phenomenon where people will concede every point of substance, but then try to spin it like their team was right all along? + +There was [a really egregious example from Noah Smith last week](https://x.com/Noahpinion/status/1928965488052203944): he retweeted something about how selective breeding could eliminate racial gaps in "as little as 135 years", and commented, "The 'race and IQ' bros will think this is a big win for them, but in fact it's one reason why they're wrong." + +But of course hereditarians are going to agree that selective breeding works! + +It's as if as long as you affiliate with the right team, none of the actual details matter. + + + + +---- + +A benefit I did get from our interaction on Friday is that I now have a more detailed error theory of you. + +Previously, I had been attributing your failure to understand the philosophy of categorization to your being [math](https://slatestarcodex.com/2013/06/30/the-lottery-of-fascinations/)-[retarded](https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/01/31/the-parable-of-the-talents/). + +(A few years ago, I used to say that Scott Alexander is like GPT-3: the reason everyone is impressed is not because it's particularly smart, but because it writes so fast.) + +But that diagnosis is way too vague; now I feel like I have a better grasp of how your intellectual disability connects to your sincere self-reports. + +[Five and a half years ago, you told me](), No one is being decieved; their thoughts are just following a longer path. + + +I think the reason _you_ think you hadn't just conceded everything of substance is because, as a math retard, you don't actually know any epistemology. + +Because I'm not retarded, I know about the minimum description length principle, which prefers + +[evidence that EY is playing political games, including "Changing Emotions"] diff --git a/notes/notes.txt b/notes/notes.txt index d425548..bb0b064 100644 --- a/notes/notes.txt +++ b/notes/notes.txt @@ -3676,3 +3676,9 @@ https://x.com/cr1ng3yy/status/1922861276687974445 In S1E17 of Gravity Falls, at the beginning, Wendy agrees with a dismissive comment about "girls" (showing her gender non-conformity and can make probabilistic inferences from that), and at the end she makes a comment about "guys" (showing that she's still female and can make probabilistic inferences from that) There's a version of this that's true, but this was lower quality than I expected/hoped: https://www.transvitae.com/biological-reality-isnt-science-its-just-nostalgia/ + +https://www.reddit.com/r/MtF/comments/1ky34w5/its_just_a_fetish_isnt_it/ +top comment: "We get this exact post like twice a week, tl;dr just sign up for estrogen already" + +https://x.com/jackiedotnet/status/1929938997264166934 +> added a trans girl to my contacts and realized we both met at a hackathon pretransition because of course we did diff --git a/notes/post_ideas.txt b/notes/post_ideas.txt index f12f43e..c60c5ff 100644 --- a/notes/post_ideas.txt +++ b/notes/post_ideas.txt @@ -1,13 +1,14 @@ -_ A Proud Wells Fargo Customer -_ Morphological Freedom _ Still The Dump Stat (vibe shift didn't last, Hanania) -_ Gaines +_ Gaines https://goldengatexpress.org/111139/campus/riley-gaines-return-to-sfsu-draws-minor-protest/ +_ A Proud Wells Fargo Customer +_ I Support Morphological Freedom +_ I Support Morphological Freedom, But _ conversation with Claude about the LLM ChangeMyView paper _ Elision vs. Choice _ more details on my sexuality (escorts, gen AI usage); open with awkwardness of having a sexuality blog and not wanting to talk about sex +_ The Story of My Name -https://goldengatexpress.org/111139/campus/riley-gaines-return-to-sfsu-draws-minor-protest/ near— _ interlude about social influence on preference and identity development @@ -19,8 +20,6 @@ _ Guess I'll Die _ Book Review: Charles Murray's Facing Reality: Two Truths About Race in America (with coda) _ No Match - - ----- _ Ranma 1/2 review