From: M. Taylor Saotome-Westlake Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2018 16:38:57 +0000 (-0800) Subject: check in X-Git-Url: http://unremediatedgender.space/source?a=commitdiff_plain;h=0ab6f1889d7e3815ea9c197a243e527d401f3b6b;p=Ultimately_Untrue_Thought.git check in --- diff --git a/content/drafts/i-mean-yes-i-agree-that-man-should-allocate-some-more-categories-but.md b/content/drafts/i-mean-yes-i-agree-that-man-should-allocate-some-more-categories-but.md index 23a83db..f41cb47 100644 --- a/content/drafts/i-mean-yes-i-agree-that-man-should-allocate-some-more-categories-but.md +++ b/content/drafts/i-mean-yes-i-agree-that-man-should-allocate-some-more-categories-but.md @@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ Category: commentary Tags: epistemology, Ozy, sex differences Status: draft -This post is a reply to [friend of the blog](/tag/ozy/) Ozymandias's [reply](https://thingofthings.wordpress.com/2018/06/18/man-should-allocate-some-more-categories/) to [my reply](/2018/Feb/the-categories-were-made-for-man-to-make-predictions/) to Scott Alexander's ["The Categories Were Made for Man, Not Man for the Categories"](http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/21/the-categories-were-made-for-man-not-man-for-the-categories/). +This post is a reply to [friend of the blog](/tag/ozy/) Ozymandias's [reply](https://thingofthings.wordpress.com/2018/06/18/man-should-allocate-some-more-categories/) to [my reply](/2018/Feb/the-categories-were-made-for-man-to-make-predictions/) to Scott Alexander's ["The Categories Were Made for Man, Not Man for the Categories"](http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/21/the-categories-were-made-for-man-not-man-for-the-categories/). My reply ends up covering a lot of worldview-ground, so ideas in this post may be expanded upon in future posts. After summarizing the discussion so far, Ozy argues that my appeal to the relevance of pyschological sex differences commits me to an absurd conclusion— @@ -100,7 +100,7 @@ Ozy continues— > > Similarly, early-transition trans women can be placed into the former category. In our culture, it is generally very stigmatized for men to wear dresses, skirts, makeup, and other signifiers of womanhood. In particular, catcallers and sexist harassers essentially never do: if you're a catcaller or a sexist harasser, it is probably because you are invested in a particular style of masculinity that is completely incompatible with wearing a skirt. Therefore, allowing all dress-wearing people to use the women's bathroom has minimal risk of allowing catcallers in. In the event that men wearing dresses and makeup is completely destigmatized to the point that even sexist assholes do so, I am happy to reexamine this statement. -Although I lack relevant lived experience, I suspect this is _wildly_ overestimating the ideological component of women's discomfort around men. I agree that certain very overt kinds of harrassment (the kind that involves yelling slurs and obcenities) can be attributed to sexist subcultures of _machismo_ and toxic masculinity. +Although I lack relevant lived experience, I suspect this is _wildly_ overestimating the _ideological_ component of women's discomfort around men. I agree that certain very overt kinds of harrassment (the kind that involves yelling slurs and obcenities) can be attributed to sexist subcultures of _machismo_ and toxic masculinity. Unfortunately, I fear the [threat model](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threat_model) is a little bit subtler and more expansive than that. @@ -198,3 +198,7 @@ We could imagine an alternate universe designed by a loving God, where the peopl I say, "I'm not sure what 'it's okay to not persue any medical transition options while still not identifying with your asab' is supposed to mean if it doesn't cash out to 'it's okay to enforce social norms preventing other people from admitting out loud that they have correctly noticed your biological sex'": K. replies that it's not clear that "You can change your name" is mostly about enforcing the social norm that other people can't notice your old name https://traditionsofconflict.com/blog/2018/11/28/sex-revenge-and-the-social-fabric + +Lewontin's fallacy and brain sex differences: https://www.pnas.org/content/113/14/E1966 + +Bootstrapping: https://thingofthings.wordpress.com/2016/04/25/nonbinary-gender/ diff --git a/content/drafts/trying-to-be-explicit.md b/content/drafts/trying-to-be-explicit.md index 7bc476c..3cb3340 100644 --- a/content/drafts/trying-to-be-explicit.md +++ b/content/drafts/trying-to-be-explicit.md @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ -Title: Trying to Be Explicit +Title: "Portland" By Gaslight; Or, Trying to Be Explicit Date: 2020-01-01 Category: fiction Tags: autogynephilia @@ -10,6 +10,8 @@ _How do fight a narrative?_ Mark wondered. when your enemy is less of a regime and more of a meme? How do you explain to anyone what you're trying to accomplish when you're not trying to get anyone to do anything different in particular, but to renounce their distorted way of thinking and speaking, after which you expect them to make better decisions, even if you can't say in advance what those decisions will be? +He thought he had explained it very clearly + fighting an entire Discord room diff --git a/notes/epigraph_quotes.md b/notes/epigraph_quotes.md index ba40578..637185e 100644 --- a/notes/epigraph_quotes.md +++ b/notes/epigraph_quotes.md @@ -257,3 +257,5 @@ http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/ > If you think, speak, write, and sign, then don't be surprised. > > —Soviet proverb + +https://xkcd.com/1942/ diff --git a/notes/notes.txt b/notes/notes.txt index 91d087a..f50900d 100644 --- a/notes/notes.txt +++ b/notes/notes.txt @@ -919,3 +919,11 @@ https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2018/11/30/36431918/if-the-future-is-nonbinary- "I gender him male as per his philosophical commitments" https://www.theverge.com/2014/4/28/5661118/lab-mice-fear-men-not-women-big-problem-for-science + +Mad Ouroboros on the Somewhere Else Discord speculates that "don't call me cis" gendercrits and AFAB enbies are having the same internal gender experience + +CAIS in sport: https://twitter.com/FondOfBeetles/status/1070097483408248835 + +the evolutionarily ancient process of noticing secondary sex characteristics is less legitimate than "Because I said so" + +https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/zmynd9/stop-gendering-your-baby?utm_campaign=sharebutton diff --git a/notes/post_ideas.txt b/notes/post_ideas.txt index 8e67c00..bed7ea9 100644 --- a/notes/post_ideas.txt +++ b/notes/post_ideas.txt @@ -3,6 +3,7 @@ _ Trying to Be Explicit _ Phenotypic Identity and Memetic Capture serious track— +_ I Mean, Yes _ High-Dimensional Social Science and the Conjunction of Small Effect Sizes _ Against Fully Consensual Gender (working title) @@ -27,6 +28,7 @@ apartment patty _ Interlude XVI (egg promises) ✓ Interlude XVII (not all men) +can the comment on "Bit Players" actually fit on this blog (I didn't empathize with offense at fake physics, but I can take offense at maximum-entropy psychology): epigraph quote, "It's Only a Paper Moon" Q As Well for a Sheep as a Lamb; Or, Charity, Objectivity, and ... 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