From: M. Taylor Saotome-Westlake Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 18:23:37 +0000 (-0800) Subject: check in X-Git-Url: http://unremediatedgender.space/source?a=commitdiff_plain;h=221156b71a600603c2dfb5adc0e680f8851c42dc;p=Ultimately_Untrue_Thought.git check in --- diff --git a/content/drafts/i-tell-myself-to-let-the-story-end-or-a-hill-of-validity-in-defense-of-meaning.md b/content/drafts/i-tell-myself-to-let-the-story-end-or-a-hill-of-validity-in-defense-of-meaning.md index b24c8fe..64ab74c 100644 --- a/content/drafts/i-tell-myself-to-let-the-story-end-or-a-hill-of-validity-in-defense-of-meaning.md +++ b/content/drafts/i-tell-myself-to-let-the-story-end-or-a-hill-of-validity-in-defense-of-meaning.md @@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ Status: draft > And I say > Ooh, how'm I gonna get over you? > I'll be alright, just not tonight -> But someday +> But someday_ > > —Sara Barellies, ["Gonna Get Over You"](https://genius.com/Sara-bareilles-gonna-get-over-you-lyrics) diff --git a/notes/i-tell-myself-notes.txt b/notes/i-tell-myself-notes.txt index 83b0cde..0cff7a2 100644 --- a/notes/i-tell-myself-notes.txt +++ b/notes/i-tell-myself-notes.txt @@ -544,7 +544,7 @@ but ... that's my entire social circle If I can't ragequit the community, I have to do the analogue of going to grad school, while hating school—I don't have an exit this time -(Picture me playing Hermione Granger in an adaptation of the Great Teacher's famous _Harry Potter_ fanfic: "[We can do anything if we](https://www.hpmor.com/chapter/30) exert arbitrarily large amounts of [interpretive labor](https://acesounderglass.com/2015/06/09/interpretive-labor/)!") +(Picture me playing Hermione Granger in a post-Singularity adaptation of the Great Teacher's famous _Harry Potter_ fanfic (Emma Watson having loaned me a copy of her body for the occasion): "[We can do anything if we](https://www.hpmor.com/chapter/30) exert arbitrarily large amounts of [interpretive labor](https://acesounderglass.com/2015/06/09/interpretive-labor/)!") https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/WLJwTJ7uGPA5Qphbp/trying-to-try > it's a lens through which you can view many-but-not-all personal dilemmas—"What standard am I holding myself to? Is it high enough?" @@ -559,3 +559,5 @@ if I'm allowed to have unflattering psychological theories about other people, t "If you make yourself really small, you can externalize virtually everything." —Daniel Dennett > "The Choice between Good and Bad," said the Lord of Dark in a slow, careful voice, as though explaining something to a child, "is not a matter of saying 'Good!' It is about deciding which is which." + +inside views are just outside views against a finer-grained method of constructing reference classes diff --git a/notes/i-tell-myself-sections.md b/notes/i-tell-myself-sections.md index 52b0ad0..5607315 100644 --- a/notes/i-tell-myself-sections.md +++ b/notes/i-tell-myself-sections.md @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ --- -**Almost everything I do is at least one meta level up from any actual decisions.** I'm _not_ trying to tell other people how to live their lives, because _that would be crazy_. I am obviously _not smart enough_ to tell other people what they should do _and get the right answer_. True, I am skeptical of currently-popular _theories_ of how gender works and how gender dysphoria works,[^concepts] because I think they are _false_ in certain knowable aspects and that I have a more accurate view in certain knowable aspects. That is _not the same thing_ as telling people to detransition! Maybe lots _more_ people should transition! But in order to _figure out_ what the correct decisions are—or what the best decisions are conditional on your axiomatic subjective values—we need to _get the theory right_. That's what I'm _trying_ to do. It would be nice to have some help! +**Almost everything I do is at least one meta level up from any actual decisions.** I'm _not_ trying to tell other people how to live their lives, because _that would be crazy_. I am obviously _not smart enough_ to tell other people what they should do _and get the right answer_. True, I am skeptical of currently-popular _theories_ of how gender works and how gender dysphoria works,[^concepts] because I think they are _false_ in certain knowable aspects and that I have a more accurate view in certain knowable aspects. That is _not the same thing_ as telling people to detransition! Maybe lots _more_ people should transition! But in order to _figure out_ what the correct decisions are—or what the best decisions are conditional on your axiomatic subjective values—we need to **get the theory right**. That's what I'm _trying_ to do. It would be nice to have some help! [^concepts]: And indeed, whether "gender" and "gender dysphoria" are exactly the right concepts. @@ -24,16 +24,17 @@ I can be polite in most circumstances, as the price of keeping the peace in Soci ----- -If we _actually had_ the magical sex change technology described in "Changing Emotions", no one would even be _tempted_ to invent these clever category-gerrymandering mind games! People who wanted to change sex would just _do it_, and everyone would use corresponding language (pronouns and more) because it straightforwardly _described reality_—not as a political favor, or because of some exceedingly clever philosophy argument, but using the _same_ ordinary word-choice algorithms that they used for everything else. The fact that people keep inventing these clever category-gerrymandering mind games and refuse to engage when one of their peers spends thousands of words explaining why this is not how we do philosophy, is an indication that something fishy is going on here?[^motherfuckers] +If we _actually had_ the magical perfect sex change technology described in "Changing Emotions", no one would even be _tempted_ to invent these clever category-gerrymandering mind games! People who wanted to change sex would just _do it_, and everyone would use corresponding language (pronouns and more) because it straightforwardly _described reality_—not as a political favor, or because of some exceedingly clever philosophy argument, but using the _same_ ordinary word-choice algorithms that they used for everything else. The fact that people keep inventing these clever category-gerrymandering mind games and refuse to engage when one of their peers or students spends thousands of words explaining why this is not how we do philosophy, is an indication that _something has gone very wrong_.[^motherfuckers] [^motherfuckers]: We had an entire Sequence about this! You lying motherfuckers! -If we _actually had_ the magical sex change technology described in "Changing Emotions"—if it cost $200,000, I would take out a bank loan and _do it_, and live happily ever after. +If we _actually had_ the magical perfect sex change technology described in "Changing Emotions"—if it cost $200,000, I would take out a bank loan and _do it_, and live happily ever after. -(Though I'd call myself a transwoman—one word, for the same reason the _verthandi_ in "Failed Utopia #4-2" got their own word. I currently write "trans woman", two words, as a strategic concession to the shibboleth-detectors of my target audience.[^two-words] I don't want to to _prematurely_ scare off progressive-socialized readers on account of mere orthography, when what I actually have to say is already disturbing enough.) +(Though I'd call myself a transwoman—one word, for the same reason the _verthandi_ in "Failed Utopia #4-2" got their own word. I currently write "trans woman", two words, as a strategic concession to the shibboleth-detectors of my target audience:[^two-words] I don't want to to _prematurely_ scare off progressive-socialized readers on account of mere orthography, when what I actually have to say is already disturbing enough.) [^two-words]: For the unfamiliar: the [doctrine here](https://medium.com/@cassiebrighter/please-write-trans-women-as-two-words-487f153444fb) is that "transwoman" is cissexist, because "trans" is properly an adjective indicating a type of woman. +Since we _don't_ have magical perfect sex change technology, but do have Not because I like my voice, but because @@ -253,4 +254,4 @@ acknowleding my complicity: But "I thought X seemed Y to me" and "X is Y" _do not mean the same thing_. [The map is not the territory](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/KJ9MFBPwXGwNpadf2/skill-the-map-is-not-the-territory). [The quotation is not the referent](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/np3tP49caG4uFLRbS/the-quotation-is-not-the-referent). [The planning algorithm that maximizes the probability of doing a thing is different from an algorithm that maximizes the probability of having "tried" to do the thing](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/WLJwTJ7uGPA5Qphbp/trying-to-try). -Social norms that require claims to be made as "I" statements are adapted for _minimizing social conflict_. In the absence of mind-reading technology whose reliability is common knowledge, assertions about the content of your own map are unchallengable. If everyone is forced to only make narcissitic claims about their map ("_I_ think", "_I_ feel"), and not make claims about the territory (which could be construed to call other people's maps into question) +Social norms that require claims to be made as "I" statements are adapted for _minimizing social conflict_. In the absence of mind-reading technology whose reliability is common knowledge, assertions about the content of your own map are unchallengable. If everyone is forced to only make narcissitic claims about their map ("_I_ think", "_I_ feel"), and not make claims about the territory (which could be construed to call other people's maps into question), that's diff --git a/notes/notes.txt b/notes/notes.txt index 9c881cf..b7a3de8 100644 --- a/notes/notes.txt +++ b/notes/notes.txt @@ -1439,3 +1439,15 @@ Suppose we get someone to re-write the post because of the reputational risk. If And they would kind of have a point? The function of "bad reputation" is to correspond to things that are actually bad. ----- + +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agalmatophilia + +"An important fantasy for some individuals is being transformed into the preferred object (such as a statue) and experiencing an associated state of immobility or paralysis." + +https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/12/childrens-transgender-clinic-hit-35-resignations-three-years/ + +'someone saying they're MtF is like waving a big red flag in front of me that says, "I will try to seduce you in the creepiest way, talk your ear off about model trains, and violate your boundaries with my fetishes."' https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/dy7241/peak_trans_x_tell_your_story_here/faj48v9/ + +https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/eacgc5/a_tim_in_healthcare/ + +https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/eab3wy/relieved_to_see_a_woman/ diff --git a/notes/post_ideas.txt b/notes/post_ideas.txt index ad44770..c7e3e40 100644 --- a/notes/post_ideas.txt +++ b/notes/post_ideas.txt @@ -1,6 +1,3 @@ -11 Dec ✓ Political Science Epigrams -12 Dec ✓ The Strategy of Stigmatization -13 Dec ✓ On the Argumentative Form "Super-proton Things Tend to Come in Varieties" 14 Dec ✓ "I Want to Be the One" 16 Dec ✓ Promises I Can Keep 18 Dec ✓ Comp @@ -16,6 +13,8 @@ A Science Fiction Story Idea I'm Not Skilled Enough to Write Names and Genders Are Not Relevantly Analogous +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agalmatophilia didn't make it into Lawrence's erotic target location paper, did it? + PR-driven plagiarism Anne Lawrence on AGP Teen Transition