From: M. Taylor Saotome-Westlake Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 20:19:29 +0000 (-0800) Subject: check in X-Git-Url: http://unremediatedgender.space/source?a=commitdiff_plain;h=640815f712e25c7f8405bb79bd5bddc8f98b0114;p=Ultimately_Untrue_Thought.git check in --- diff --git a/content/drafts/sen-kelly-loeffler-is-mostly-living-in-a-simulation-now.md b/content/drafts/sen-kelly-loeffler-is-mostly-living-in-a-simulation-now.md index ef430ed..0ae7630 100644 --- a/content/drafts/sen-kelly-loeffler-is-mostly-living-in-a-simulation-now.md +++ b/content/drafts/sen-kelly-loeffler-is-mostly-living-in-a-simulation-now.md @@ -47,3 +47,10 @@ fact check: https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/12/fact-check-video-from-ga- https://tweetstamp.org/1323846118208376834 pointing out that Blasey–Ford got lots of coverage, election fraud got little: https://twitter.com/GPrime85/status/1335234222366334979 + +Douhat: https://archive.is/IFikt + +https://www.unz.com/isteve/both-pfizer-and-moderna-could-have-announced-vaccine-efficacy-before-the-election/ + +https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/k3pgku/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_of_november_30/geuh8nz/ +> The way I see it, the point of all the election hackery isn't to actually prove fraud, but rather to construct a plausible-enough base for a narrative to justify a coup of some sort. (I'm all for it.) True, false --- who cares ? These days, the only thing that matters is whether a story can be spun into a useful narrative for your side. That story being factually untrue damages its utility only a little. diff --git a/content/drafts/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-in-relation-to-my-gender-problems.md b/content/drafts/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-in-relation-to-my-gender-problems.md index b0dfe2f..c4f18a2 100644 --- a/content/drafts/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-in-relation-to-my-gender-problems.md +++ b/content/drafts/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-in-relation-to-my-gender-problems.md @@ -88,7 +88,7 @@ You see, a very important feature of my gender-related thinking at the time was So while I was certainly glad to learn that _there's a word for it_, an obvious and perfect word for _my thing_, I mostly just stole the word (whose referent and meaning I thought was self-explanatory from the common Greek roots) without paying any further attention to this Blanchard taxonomy or the idea that _I_ might somehow be transgender. -So, you know, as part of my antisexism, I read a lot about feminism. I remember checking out _The Feminine Mystique_ and Susan Faludi's _Backlash_ from the school library. Before I found my internet-home on _Overcoming Bias_, I would read the big feminist blogs—_Pandagon_, _Feministe_, _Feministing_. The one time I special-ordered a book at the physical Barnes & Noble before I turned 18 and got my own credit card and could order books online, it was _Feminist Intepretations of Ayn Rand_. +So, you know, as part of my antisexism, I read a lot about feminism. I remember checking out [_The Feminine Mystique_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Feminine_Mystique) and [Susan Faludi's _Backlash_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backlash:_The_Undeclared_War_Against_American_Women) from the school library. Before I found my internet-home on _Overcoming Bias_, I would read the big feminist blogs—[_Pandagon_](https://web.archive.org/web/20070630211101/http://pandagon.net/), [_Feministe_](https://web.archive.org/web/20080901002058/http://www.feministe.us/blog), [_Feministing_](https://web.archive.org/web/20080605182529/http://www.feministing.com/). The one time I special-ordered a book at the physical Barnes & Noble before I turned 18 and got my own credit card and could order books online, it was [_Feminist Intepretations of Ayn Rand_](https://www.psupress.org/books/titles/0-271-01830-5.html). (In retrospect, it's notable how _intellectualized_ all of this was—my pro-feminism was an ideological matter between me and my books, rather than arising from any practical need. It's not like I had disproportionately female friends or whatever—I mean, to the extent that I had any friends and not just books.) @@ -146,11 +146,12 @@ According to Yudkowsky, one of the ways in which people's thinking about artific In ["Interpersonal Entanglement"](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Py3uGnncqXuEfPtQp/interpersonal-entanglement), Yudkowsky appeals to the complex moral value of sympathy as an argument against the desireability of nonsentient sex partners (_catgirls_ being the technical term). Being emotionally intertwined with another actual person is one of the things that makes life valuable, that would be lost if people just had their needs met by soulless holodeck characters. -Women and men aren't +But there's a problem, Yudkowsky argues: women and men aren't designed to be optimal partners for each other. + +The game between the two human life-history strategies has [TODO WORKING: ... rewrite/expand description here—"Sympathetic Minds" first, then bridge to "Failed Utopia #4-2"] -[TODO: mention that I'm responsible for the protagonist's name getting changed] At the time, [I expressed horror](https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/ctpkTaqTKbmm6uRgC/failed-utopia-4-2/comment/PhiGnX7qKzzgn2aKb) at the idea in the comments section, because my quasi-religious psychological-sex-differences denialism required that I be horrified. But looking back a dozen years later, the _argument makes sense_. diff --git a/notes/notes.txt b/notes/notes.txt index b81631b..13b25e1 100644 --- a/notes/notes.txt +++ b/notes/notes.txt @@ -2260,3 +2260,28 @@ recommended on /r/TheMotte about gestures https://ansuz.sooke.bc.ca/entry/364 article about the Timnit Gebru paper: https://archive.is/6TX2Y "Smith College alumni demand 'further training' for white staffer who decried anti-white work environment": https://archive.vn/wzlZD + +---- + +> Do you agree with [people only act confused about biological sex when men wanted something] +> Do you think that, if you look at the history of biological sex problematization/denialism (in academia, social media, etc), there's more influence from DMAB people than DFAB people? + +To your first question: the Tweet says "only reason", which is usually false. (Nodes in a Bayesian network can have multiple parents!) If we amend to "a significant reason, plausibly the most significant reason", then yes, in the following sense. + +In the possible world where the parameters of male sexual psychology are such that autogynephilia doesn't exist "but everything else is the same", then I don't think you get the kind and scope of trans-activism movement that Saotome-Westlake's and Adams-Miller's writing is a reaction to. In this world, you still get Judith Butler (AFAB, Gender Trouble published 1990) and Anne Fausto-Sterling (AFAB, Sexing the Body published 2000), but I think you don't get pronoun stickers at conferences in 2018 and you don't get a "three-year-old Merlin Blume is a girl now; she verbally confirmed it!" social-reality enforcement campaign in 2020. + +To your second question, it might actually depend on how you operationalize "influence"! Notably, the campaign to trans Merlin (whose parents met on lesswrong.com) is being run predominantly by AFAB people; they're just combatants in the service of an ideology that I don't think would have been so memetically fit if it weren't such a convenient accommodation for AGP. (At least, that's my theory under the doctrine of "algorithmic intent"; the people involved don't think of themselves as combatants in the service of anything.) + +---- + +Two years ago, you wrote: "I wonder how would the rationalist movement (I meant the LessWrong cluster of folks) approach AGP if they could have a completely fresh start? Could there be a way to use the correlation between being intelligent/quantitative and being AGP to break the irrationalist trans ideology?" + +Well, I tried. I failed. I'm all out of cards. I blogged; I argued, many times, with everyone who would listen, including local celebrities (Yudkowsky, Scott Alexander). I still have a lot more writing to do for my own scholarly ambitions, but political/education efforts on my native subculture in particular are almost certainly saturated: if we were going to start a Zeitgeist change here, it would have already happened by now. + +There hasn't been no effect (people are aware of the typology as a hypothesis, with much thanks to Tailcalled and Ozy's Intellectual Turing Test), but I can't point to anyone doing anything meaningfully differently re impacts on women, our ability to think about sex. + +I'm still pretty horrified that the sticking point in discussions seems to have been not the AGP etiology itself (which is what I was focusing on in 2016/2017), but the category-boundaries-are-arbitrary "insight." So it's not just that we failed to break the irrationalist trans ideology: we actually invented something arguably worse! (Ordinary trans activists at least try to make (confused) truth claims; we invented a fully general counteragument against truth claims that's all the more dangerous thanks to the virtue of a very narrow kind of technical correctness.) + +----- + +https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/12/20691957/mastodon-decentralized-social-network-gab-migration-fediverse-app-blocking diff --git a/notes/post_ideas.txt b/notes/post_ideas.txt index 6546877..c95d978 100644 --- a/notes/post_ideas.txt +++ b/notes/post_ideas.txt @@ -140,6 +140,7 @@ if pro-reality trans people are allied with more numerous anti-reality trans peo another thing keeping me from trans-IDing: trans is "marked"; choosing it would mean associating with the crazy. Normal Society (with men named Zack) has its own madnesses and crimes, but + Vocabulary as Capital Investment _ Challenges of Mounting an Ideological Crusade