From 07556cbcb06576cfec27a24889c762c233f81223 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "M. Taylor Saotome-Westlake" Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 16:39:16 -0700 Subject: [PATCH] check in --- ...o-ozymandias-on-fully-consensual-gender.md | 2 +- ...phenotypic-identity-and-memetic-capture.md | 3 +++ .../social-strategy-notes-february-2019.md | 9 ++++++- notes/critical_acclaim.md | 2 ++ notes/notes.txt | 24 ++++++++++++++++++- notes/post_ideas.txt | 7 ++++-- 6 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) diff --git a/content/drafts/how-dumb-do-you-think-we-are-a-reply-to-ozymandias-on-fully-consensual-gender.md b/content/drafts/how-dumb-do-you-think-we-are-a-reply-to-ozymandias-on-fully-consensual-gender.md index 37f678d..738c2bb 100644 --- a/content/drafts/how-dumb-do-you-think-we-are-a-reply-to-ozymandias-on-fully-consensual-gender.md +++ b/content/drafts/how-dumb-do-you-think-we-are-a-reply-to-ozymandias-on-fully-consensual-gender.md @@ -41,7 +41,7 @@ Categorization really doesn't seem like this. If there's a conflict between one Ozy gives a list of predictions you can make about someone on the basis of social gender, as distinct from sex, apparently meant to demonstrate the usefulness of the former concept. But a lot of the individual list items seem either superficial ("Whether they wear dresses, skirts, or makeup"—surely we don't want to go for "gender as clothing", do we??), or tied to other people's _perceptions_ of sex.[ref]The harrassment and expected-sacrifices example in particular are what radical feminists would call sex-based oppression![/ref] [ref]Friend of the blog Ray Blanchard [recently proposed on Twitter](https://twitter.com/BlanchardPhD/status/1054743819206434816) that the term "subjective sex" might be more useful than "gender".[/ref] -Take the "How many messages they get on a dating site" item. The _reason_ men send lots of messages to women on dating sites is because they want to date people with vaginas and female secondary sex characteristics, and maybe father children with them, _&c._. [TODO: footnote about how this is predicted by evopsych] +Take the "How many messages they get on a dating site" item. The _reason_ men send lots of messages to women on dating sites is because they want to date people with vaginas and female secondary sex characteristics, and maybe father children with them, _&c._. [TODO: footnote about how this is predicted by evopsych and the asymmetry that makes men do the approaching] If one were to say to such a man, "Ah, I see you're sending lots of messages to women, by which I mean people who self-identify as women, in accordance with the utilitarian-desirable social policy of fully-consensual gender. Therefore, you should also send messages to these non-op trans women who aren't on HRT," I think he would reply "How _dumb_ do you think I am?" This isn't necessarily trans-exclusionary—a lot of those same men would be happy to date trans women who were _on HRT_ and thereby came to more closely rememble actual women. But that just gets us back to passing (like I was trying to say thousands of words ago), not fully consensual gender. diff --git a/content/drafts/phenotypic-identity-and-memetic-capture.md b/content/drafts/phenotypic-identity-and-memetic-capture.md index a67937a..0996a58 100644 --- a/content/drafts/phenotypic-identity-and-memetic-capture.md +++ b/content/drafts/phenotypic-identity-and-memetic-capture.md @@ -24,3 +24,6 @@ https://status451.com/2017/11/05/i-see-trad-people/ Julia Serano / Robert Heinlein People who are concerned with social justice tend to be rightfully skeptical when privileged straight white men like me complain about identity politics. That's why, when the topic is misogyny or racism, I generally _shut up_—even if I might occasionally privately _think_ I might have something true and relevant to say about the costs of the culture of the political left teaching people to model themselves as helpless victims of a kyriarchical society, I also realize that _my opinion doesn't matter_. I'm not a woman or a racial minority; I don't have their lived experience; I _don't know what it's like_ to face the challenges they face. I don't have standing to speak. + +I conflated "feminist" with the kind of woman I want + diff --git a/content/drafts/social-strategy-notes-february-2019.md b/content/drafts/social-strategy-notes-february-2019.md index 013fe7d..bb33e52 100644 --- a/content/drafts/social-strategy-notes-february-2019.md +++ b/content/drafts/social-strategy-notes-february-2019.md @@ -141,4 +141,11 @@ https://twitter.com/zackmdavis/status/1084628483748184064 test case: http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/04/12/clarification-to-sacred-principles-as-exhaustible-resources/ https://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/10/james-watson-tells-inconvenient-truth_296.php -— \ No newline at end of file +— + +stepping over the line in babyserver and #arabeth + +most of the ill will is on my side + +From the standpoint of a cultural minority, it feels like the dominant culture is constantly microaggressing against your interests, and sometimes you want to push back in self-defense, with the justification that they started it. But from the dominant culture's perspective, it was just being itself, and the "pushback" is the aggression, and the minority started it. + diff --git a/notes/critical_acclaim.md b/notes/critical_acclaim.md index 846a9a5..7f12818 100644 --- a/notes/critical_acclaim.md +++ b/notes/critical_acclaim.md @@ -54,3 +54,5 @@ http://antropofagi.blogspot.se/2018/03/blandat-om-memetisk-evolution.html In Rod Dreher's comment section: https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/resisting-trans-tyranny-science-not-religion/comment-page-4/#comment-8870177 In the Hacker News comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16901682 + +https://twitter.com/ShadiiRAT/status/1070775821432995842 "I just spent half the day reading the blog of some dude whose day job is trying to stop a hostile AI takeover and spent six months on estrogen just to see what it felt like / What the fuck is going on in the rationalist scene" diff --git a/notes/notes.txt b/notes/notes.txt index 30cd295..fef45e1 100644 --- a/notes/notes.txt +++ b/notes/notes.txt @@ -1204,6 +1204,28 @@ https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8647171/transgender-woman-sexually-assaulted-girl- Cohen's d visualizer! https://rpsychologist.com/d3/cohend/ -When I say "I like you a lot" to Jessica, it's a weird interaction between "I'm in love with her because I'm modeling her as an actual woman", but "I'm less afraid of hurting her"—being that forward to a cis woman would be creepy +When I say "I like you a lot" to Jessica, it's a weird interaction between "I'm in love with her because I'm modeling her as an actual woman", but "I'm less afraid of hurting her"—being that forward to a cis woman would be creepy. Notice how strongly Sarah reacted to the counterfactual marriage proposal. +http://loyolaphoenix.com/2019/03/menstrual-products-in-luc-bathrooms-disappearing-and-tampered-with/ +a FB acquaintance writes: "!!! someone finally messaged me a graphic fantasy of raping me, completely unprompted! I'm a real woman now!" And then, in the comments: "don't be sad! it was hot" + +a FB acquaintance writes: "I mean.. there was a time in my life when I had a single token cis friend, and I was very happy with that situation. [...] I certainly am tempted to go back to a mostly trans-exclusive social life, even if there's still some misunderstanding of my gender in that situation." (Wow, that's pretty cultish!!) + +https://sportsscientists.com/2019/03/on-transgender-athletes-and-performance-advantages/ + +AGP/furry combo comic: https://twitter.com/WolFirry/status/1110259481479467010 + +read this: https://medium.com/@kemenatan + +biological sex denialism https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/opinion/trans-women-feminism.html + +Contrapoints peak: https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/9zgivf/peak_trans_viii_tell_your_story_here/ek0a1qv/ +Harassment peak: https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/9zgivf/peak_trans_viii_tell_your_story_here/ek0wehg/ + +https://www.reddit.com/r/itsafetish/comments/bb27gx/i_didnt_get_an_erection_when_putting_on_a_ball/ + +"According to our newsgathering partners at the News and Tribune, Brown asked managers, 'How do you know I'm not a female?'" https://www.wthr.com/article/clark-county-man-arrested-sexually-assault-woman-walmart-bathroom + +https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/04/11/234-house-democrats-2-republicans-co-sponsor-bill-forcing-schools-to-let-male-athletes-compete-on-girls-sports-teams/ +https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/1006/text diff --git a/notes/post_ideas.txt b/notes/post_ideas.txt index 8865ada..8bfeff0 100644 --- a/notes/post_ideas.txt +++ b/notes/post_ideas.txt @@ -1,5 +1,6 @@ -!! Two Kinds of Value-Dependence Social Strategy Notes +Objectivity as a Rhetorical Strategy: probability, words, morality +Focus on the Simple Case (accurate maps can have bad effects, but that's a weird second-order analysis) LW Question: How might one unwind one's "rationalist" social identity? Virtue Signaling Is Costly and Honest How Dumb Do You Think We Are? @@ -9,6 +10,9 @@ I Mean, Yes, I Agree That Man Should Allocate Some More Categories, But The Social Construction of Reality and the Sheer Goddamned The Motte-and-Bailey Doctrine as Compression Artefact Trying to Be Explicit +Phenotypic Identity and Memetic Capture +In the Presence of Mimickry, Extension and Intension Simplicity Trade-Off +Terminology Gap: "Biological vs. Natal" Sex Differences and Commonsense Priors (I have parsimony intuitions that make "AGP is caused by pollution" or "AGP is normal in cis women" or "hormone receptors distributions are the same" seem not worth considering) @@ -18,7 +22,6 @@ It Was a Complement! Names and Genders Are Not Relevantly Analogous Willie McCovington A Human's Abridged Guide to Gender Words -Phenotypic Identity and Memetic Capture "But It Doesn't Matter" One-Way Trolls "Lies to Cis People", a.k.a., "Lies" -- 2.17.1