From cd64e0947acfcfd9fd2b471cf1ff1adc3ebbb52a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "Zack M. Davis" Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 22:05:00 -0700 Subject: [PATCH] drafting "Fake Deeply" --- content/drafts/fake-deeply.md | 48 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------- 1 file changed, 38 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-) diff --git a/content/drafts/fake-deeply.md b/content/drafts/fake-deeply.md index 3530ff8..9b6cf6a 100644 --- a/content/drafts/fake-deeply.md +++ b/content/drafts/fake-deeply.md @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@ _Tranny or real?_ Jake wondered, clicking on her profie. The profile text indicated that Chloë was on the newly formed capability risk evaluations team. Jake groaned. _Yuddites._ Fears of artificial intelligence destroying humanity had recently been trending in the media (social and otherwise). In response, Magma had commissioned a team with the purpose to monitor and audit the company's AI projects for the emergence of unforeseen and potentially dangerous capabilities, although the exact scope of the new team's power was unclear and probably subject to the outcome of future intra-company political battles. -Jake took a dim view of the AI risk crowd. Given what deep learning could do nowadays, it didn't feel quite right to dismiss their doomsday stories as science fiction, exactly, but Jake maintained it was the _wrong subgenre_ of science fiction. His team was building the computer from _Star Trek_, not the Blight from _A Fire Upon the Deep_: tools, not creatures. Despite the brain-inspired name, "neural networks" were ultimately just a technique for fitting a curve to training data. If it was counterintuitive how much you could get done with a curve fitted to _the entire internet_, previous generations of computing pioneers must have found it equally counterintuitive how much you could get done with millions of arithmetic operations per second. It was a new era of technology, not a new era of life. +Jake took a dim view of the AI risk crowd. Given what deep learning could do nowadays, it didn't feel quite right to dismiss their doomsday stories as science fiction, exactly, but Jake maintained it was the _wrong subgenre_ of science fiction. His team was building the computer from _Star Trek_, not the Blight from _A Fire Upon the Deep_: tools, not creatures. Despite the brain-inspired name, "neural networks" were ultimately just a technique for fitting a curve to training data. If it was counintuitive how much you could get done with a curve fitted to _the entire internet_, previous generations of computing pioneers must have found it equally counterintuitive how much you could get done with millions of arithmetic operations per second. It was a new era of technology, not a new era of life. It was because of his skepticism rather than in spite of it that he had volunteered to be the Multigen team's designated contact person for the risk evals team (which was no doubt why this Chloë person had messaged him). No one else had volunteered at the meeting when it came up, and Jake had been slightly curious what "capability risk evaluations" would even entail. @@ -48,7 +48,7 @@ That part was mostly true. Code Assistant had created the logging change. Jake h Thus, by carefully prefixing his requests with the bell character, Jake could make all the custom videos he wanted, with no need to worry about explaining himself if someone happened to read the logs. It was the perfect crime—not a crime, really. A precaution. -But now his precaution had been discovered! So much for his career at Magma. But only at Magma—the industry gossip network wouldn't prevent him from landing on his feet elsewhere ... right? +But now his precaution had been discovered. So much for his career at Magma. But only at Magma—the industry gossip network wouldn't prevent him from landing on his feet elsewhere ... right? Chloë was explaining the bug. "... and so, if a client were to send a request starting with the ASCII bell character—I know, right?—then the request wouldn't be logged." @@ -108,25 +108,53 @@ However, Jake did have access to the cluster. He almost laughed in relief. It wa He had only made a couple dozen videos, but the work of covering it up would be the same if he had made thousands; it was a simple scripting job. Code Assistant probably could have done it. -Chloë would be left with the unsolvable mystery of what her digital poltergeist wanted to do with puppy videos, but Jake was fine with that. (Better than trying to convince her that the AI wanted nudes of female Magma employees.) When she came back to him next week, he would just need to play it cool and answer her questions about the system. +Chloë would be left with the unsolvable mystery of what her digital poltergeist wanted to do with puppy videos, but Jake was fine with that. (Better than trying to convince her that the rogue AI wanted nudes of female Magma employees.) When she came back to him next week, he would just need to play it cool and answer her questions about the system. -Or maybe—he could read some Yuddite literature over the weekend, feign a sincere interest in "AI safety", try to get on her good side? Jake had trouble believing any sane person could really think that Magma's machine learning models were plotting something. This cult victim had ridden a wave of popular hysteria into a sinecure. If he played nice and validated her belief system in the most general terms, maybe that would be enough to make her feel useful and therefore not need to bother chasing shadows in order to justify her position. She would lose interest and the whole investigation would blow over. +Or maybe—he could read some Yuddite literature over the weekend, feign a sincere interest in "AI safety", try to get on her good side? Jake had trouble believing any sane person could really think that Magma's machine learning models were plotting something. This cult victim had ridden a wave of popular hysteria into a sinecure. If he played nice and validated her belief system in the most general terms, maybe that would be enough to make her feel useful and therefore not need to bother chasing shadows in order to justify her position. She would lose interest and this farcical little investigation would blow over. ------ -"And so just because an AI seems to behaving well, doesn't mean it's aligned," Chloë explained. "It might just be playing along as an instrumental strategy, hoping to pull off a treacherous turn later." +"And so just because an AI seems to behaving well, doesn't mean it's aligned," Chloë was explaining. "It might just be playing along as an instrumental strategy, hoping to pull off a treacherous turn later." -"So then we're just screwed, right?" said Jake in the tone of an attentive student. After fixing the logging regex and overwriting the evidence with puppies, Jake had spent the weekend catching up with the AI safety literature. Some of it had been better than he expected. Just because Chloë was nuts didn't mean her co-ideologues didn't have any valid points to make about future systems. +"So then we're just screwed, right?" said Jake in the tone of an attentive student. They were in a conference room on the Magma campus on Monday. After fixing the logging regex and overwriting the evidence with puppies, he had spent the weekend catching up with the "AI safety" literature. Honestly, some of it had been better than he expected. Just because Chloë was nuts didn't mean her co-ideologues didn't have any valid points to make about future systems. -"I mean, probably," said Chloë. She was beaming. Jake's plan to distract her from her investigation by asking her to bring him up to speed on AI safety seemed to be working perfectly. +"I mean, probably," said Chloë. She was beaming. Jake's plan to distract her from her investigation by asking her to bring him up to speed on "AI safety" seemed to be working perfectly. -"But not necessarily," she continued. There are a few avenues of hope—at least in the not-wildly-superhuman regime. One of them has to do with the topology of policies and the fragility of deception." +"But not necessarily," she continued. There are a few avenues of hope—at least in the not-wildly-superhuman regime. One of them has to do with the topology of policies and the fragility of deception. -"The thing about deception is, you can't just lie about the one thing. Everything is connected to each other in the Great Web of Causality: you also have to lie to cover up the evidence, and recursively cover up the coverups. A robot that killed your cat but wants your approval can't just say 'I didn't do it.' It needs to fabricate evidence that something else killed the cat, or .... arrange for a series of holograms to make it look to you like the cat is still alive." +"The thing about deception is, you can't just lie about the one thing. Everything is connected to each other in the Great Web of Causality. If you lie about one thing, you also have to lie about the evidence pointing to that thing, and the evidence pointing to that evidence, recursively covering up the coverups. For example ..." she trailed off. "Sorry, I didn't rehearse this; maybe you can think of an example." + +Jake's heart stopped. She had to be toying with him, right? Indeed, Jake could think of an example. By his count, he was now three layers deep into his stack of coverups and coverups-of-coverups (by writing the bell character bug, attributing it to Code Assistant, and overwriting the incriminating videos in the object storage cluster with puppies). Four, if you counted pretending to give a shit about "AI safety". But now he was done ... right? + +No! Not quite, he realized. He had overwritten the videos, but the object metadata would still show them with a last-modified timestamp of Friday evening (when he had gotten his puppy-overwriting script working), not the timestamp of their actual creation (which Chloë had from the reverse-proxy logs). That wouldn't directly implicate him (the way the videos of Elaine calling him by name would), but it would show that whoever had exploited the bell character bug was _covering their tracks_ (as opposed to just wanting puppy videos in the first place). + +Maybe Chloë wouldn't notice the timestamps? He couldn't count on that; the logging discrepancy that started this whole fiasco was much subtler. + +But the object storage API probably provided a way to edit the metadata and update the last-modified time, right? (The analogue of `touch -d` on Unix-like systems.) This shouldn't even count as a fourth–fifth coverup; it was something he should have included in his script to write the puppy videos. + +"Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean," he said to Chloë, as he brought up the object storage API docs on his laptop. If she noticed the change in his manner, he didn't notice her noticing. + +"Okay, so [this example comes from Paul](https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/AqsjZwxHNqH64C2b6/let-s-see-you-write-that-corrigibility-tag/comment/8kPhqBc69HtmZj6XR)," she said. Jake felt a small flicker of distaste towards the practice of referring to researchers by their first name (which he had seen a lot of in the blog posts he had read over the weekend, and which struck him as uncouth), but mentioning it wouldn't be a smart play. + +"Suppose your household robot misbehaves. Say it accidentally breaks your favorite vase." + +"'Accidentally'? Isn't that anthropomorphizing?" Jake asked. A questionable play—his attentive student role didn't call for that much skepticism, but he was somewhat distracted by his docs-search multitasking and forgot to avoid reacting naturally. + +"Sorry, that's inessential—and really, in the most worrisome scenarios, it would be intentional. What matters is that the robot wants—I mean, is optimizing for—your approval, and it knows that you would disapprove if you knew what it had done. + +We can imagine a spectrum of possible resposnes. Given that the deed was done, you'd prefer that it fess up, tell you about the vase. + +But if could also try to hide evidence. + +[...] + +SGD has to discover these policies "continuously", one gradient update at a time. + +The honest policy and the deceptive policy [TODO— * "Maybe not." There are two ways to pass all the evals: do things the right way, or be pervasively deceptive. The thing is, policies are trained continuously via gradient descent. The purely honest policy and the purely deceptive policy look identical on evals, but in between, the model would have to learn how to lie, and lie about lying, and cover-up coverups. (Chloë lapses into Yuddite speak about the "Great Web of Causality.") Could we somehow steer into the honest attractor? - * https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/AqsjZwxHNqH64C2b6/let-s-see-you-write-that-corrigibility-tag/comment/8kPhqBc69HtmZj6XR + * * That's why she believes in risk paranoia. If situational awareness is likely to emerge at some point, she doesn't want to rule it out now. AI is real; it's not just a far-mode in-the-future thing. * Jake sees the uncomfortable analogy to his own situation. He tries to think of what other clue he might have left, while the conversation continues ... * The Last-Modified dates! They're set by the system, the API doesn't offer a way to backdate them. -- 2.17.1