I want to focus on the speech angle! L (Zero)— > an extremely generous perspective of who should be banned, considering that Capitol insurrection apologists of many forms are getting banned many places but Tailcalled is still a friend of the blog Um. I think you're _deeply_ misunderstanding where Tailcalled is coming from. Emma— > r/GCdebatesQT [...] basically a hate sub dressed up as a debate sub. I can see and basically agree with the attitude of just removing the whole GC movement from the platform as a whole rather than trying to salvage some parts of it. So, I'm having trouble reconciling this with [your earlier claim that](/2021/Jan/link-unnatural-categories-are-optimized-for-deception/#isso-93) > anti-trans campaigners like to _talk_ about "debate" a lot but don't actually make much room for it. My opinion would be that actually coming in with an attitude of "entering into a debate" would have to entail at bare minimum: [...] willingness to listen with openmindedness to the other side's reasons for believing what they believe, and making equal room for the other side to voice their side of the debate. ---- Dan T.— I'm noticing an interesting psychological reaction in myself where I find myself having a negative reaction to your comments while simultaneously emphatically agreeing with their literal content. I think it's a tone thing? Yes, https://twitter.com/Docstockk/status/1357616731523608576 > Have just seen truly cold, bitter, shaming thread about trans men from followers of mine. I've soft blocked everyone I could on it, and if that's you, I urge you not to refollow me again—our politics are not the same. https://time.com/collection/100-most-influential-people-2020/5888158/chase-strangio/ https://twitter.com/chasestrangio/status/1357323996547723264