-Incidents to Include—
+Marketing—
-Done(ish)—
-✓ "Failed Utopia 4-2"
-✓ "Changing Emotions"
+To LW—
-Easy—
-* love of a man for a woman, and vice versa as separate fragments of value
-* Psychological Unity of Humankind is only up to sex
+_(content warning sexism)_
+_(content warning transphobia)_
+_(content warning too much information about weird fetishes)_
+_(content warning WTF did I just read)_
+
+(November 2020, [TODO] words)
+
+----
+
+On Twitter—
+
+WTF transphobic garbage did I just read?? Too bad Yudkowsky can't control how creepy randos on the internet interpret his work ...
+
+-----
+To SneerClub—
+
+Hi SneerClub! I noticed that you've enjoyed some of my [previous](https://www.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/fw9cng/the_lgbt_activist_machinery_instead_adapted/) [work](https://www.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/61t94y/rationalist_tries_justifying_their_transphobia_by/), so I thought I would go ahead and proactively share this one with you, because (I'm guessing) it probably checks a lot of the boxes for top sneerable content: it's got Yudkowsky hero-worship, _and_ sexism (as many of you would define that), _and_ transphobia (as many of you would define that), _and_ weird sex stuff!
+
+(From _my_ perspective, I'm pouring my heart out about the most important thing in my life, but if someone else with a different perspective would only sneer, then I can only hope to have been—if only for a moment, as part of a subroutine in the optimal sneer computation—_understood_. And for that moment, I am grateful.)
+
+----
+
+B.F. on JKR (https://www.facebook.com/duncan.sabien/posts/3883966591638029?comment_id=3884054068295948&reply_comment_id=3884243454943676):
+> I am very glad that I don't have anyone with opinions similar to hers in my immediate vicinity, because I am pretty sure that if I did, my brain would constantly be running a scared loop in any social interactions with them. [...] I think it's important that people can write essays that are as far outside my personal Overton window as hers is outside it (because sometimes they're correct and I should update, even though I don't believe this is an instance of that)
+
+Duncan's voicing my concern: https://www.facebook.com/duncan.sabien/posts/3890320517669303
+
+-----
+Points to work in—
* Superhappies empathic inference for not wanting to believe girls were different
+https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/qCsxiojX7BSLuuBgQ/the-super-happy-people-3-8
* "The Opposite Sex" https://web.archive.org/web/20130216025508/http://lesswrong.com/lw/rp/the_opposite_sex/
* EY was right about "men need to think about themselves _as men_" (find cite)
* Vassar slapping me down
* "Mr. Davis"
-* I'm not actually very good at first-person visualization, which demonstrates something
-* study evidence that this is actually common
-* AGPs dating each other is the analogue of "Failed Utopia 4-2"!!
-
-
-Harder—
* Faster Than Science, Transgender Edition (prior draft)
* "I often wish some men/women would appreciate"
* empathic inference: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/NLMo5FZWFFq652MNe/sympathetic-minds https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Zkzzjg3h7hW5Z36hK/humans-in-funny-suits https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/9fpWoXpNv83BAHJdc/the-comedy-of-behaviorism
+* study evidence that this is actually common
+* AGPs dating each other is the analogue of "Failed Utopia 4-2"!!—the guys in "Conservative Men in Conservative Dresses" are doing better in some ways
* wipe culturally defined values
* finding things in the refrigerator
* https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/FBgozHEv7J72NCEPB/my-way https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/xsyG7PkMekHud2DMK/of-gender-and-rationality
+* make sure the late-onset/AGP terminology is introduced in a coherent order rather than being inserted willy-nilly
+* the message length of my existence
+-----
+Outline for remaining Coda—
+ * you can doubt someone's theory without doubting their report-as-data
+ * what "as a first approximation" means in causal graphs
+ * people have a political incentive to deny, but I'm making a fact-claim
+ * I would have expected the "rationalists" to be interested in getting the right answer (quote the "20% of the ones with penises" Facebook post), but it doesn't look like that's happening
+
+people colluding to maintain a thin layer of social constructions; lies to cis people
+
+[sympathetic minds gay couples anecdote]
+Anne Lawrence described autogynephiles as ["men who love women and want to become what they love."](/papers/lawrence-becoming_what_we_love.pdf) But it's worse than that. We're men who love what we _wish_ women were, and want to become _that_.
+
+[I have seen the destiny of my neurotype, and am putting forth a convulsive effort to wrench it off its path. My weapon is clear writing.](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/i8q4vXestDkGTFwsc/human-evil-and-muddled-thinking)
+
+
+-----
+
+"different thing that I don't understand" /2019/Jan/interlude-xvi/
+
+
+Be careful to phrase the early part as about _me_, and only point fingers at trans women in the coda
My ideological committment to psychological-sex-differences denialism made me uncomfortable when the topic of sex differences happened to come up on the blog—which wasn't particularly often, but in such a vast, sprawling body of work as the Sequences, it occasionally turned out to be relevant in a discussion of evolution or human values.
Anyway, I kind of spent the next ten years reading everything I could about sex and gender and transgender and feminism and evopsych and doing various things with my social presentation—sometimes things I regretted and reverted after a lot of pain—to try to seem not-masculine,
-
all the while assuming that my gender problems were clearly not the same thing as the gender problems of actual trans women,
because the standard narrative was that that's
-----
-_(content warning sexism)_
-_(content warning transphobia)_
-_(content warning too much information about weird fetishes)_
-_(content warning WTF did I just read)_
-
-(October 2020, [TODO] words)
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-Hi SneerClub! I noticed that you've enjoyed some of my [previous](https://www.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/fw9cng/the_lgbt_activist_machinery_instead_adapted/) [work](https://www.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/61t94y/rationalist_tries_justifying_their_transphobia_by/), so I thought I would go ahead and proactively share this one with you, because (I'm guessing) it probably checks a lot of the boxes for top sneerable content: it's got Yudkowsky hero-worship, _and_ sexism (as many of you would define that), _and_ transphobia (as many of you would define that), _and_ weird sex stuff!
-
-(From _my_ perspective, I'm pouring my heart out about the most important thing in my life, but if someone else with a different perspective would only sneer, then I can only hope to have been—if only for a moment, as part of a subroutine in the optimal sneer computation—_understood_. And for that moment, I am grateful.)
Sometimes I sigh because I'll never get rich
-[sympathetic minds gay couples anecdote]
-Anne Lawrence described autogynephiles as ["men who love women and want to become what they love."](/papers/lawrence-becoming_what_we_love.pdf) But it's worse than that. We're men who love what we _wish_ women were, and want to become _that_.
-
-[I have seen the destiny of my neurotype, and am putting forth a convulsive effort to wrench it off its path. My weapon is clear writing.](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/i8q4vXestDkGTFwsc/human-evil-and-muddled-thinking)
https://archive.is/7Wolo
> the massive correlation between exposure to Yudkowsky’s writings and being a trans woman (can’t bother to do the calculations but the connection is absurdly strong)
[TODO: are we getting new recruits? A lot of the names I see are old]
-
Yudkowsky says trans rights!
+This doesn't pass the smell test. This doesn't pass the _laugh_ test.
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/jMTbQj9XB5ah2maup/similarity-clusters
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/cFzC996D7Jjds3vS9/arguing-by-definition
+https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/mB95aqTSJLNR9YyjH/message-length
+
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/9QxnfMYccz9QRgZ5z/the-costly-coordination-mechanism-of-common-knowledge
+https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/L22jhyY9ocXQNLqyE/science-as-curiosity-stopper
+
+Personal identity—
+https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/MkKcnPdTZ3pQ9F5yC/cryonics-without-freezers-resurrection-possibilities-in-a
+https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/hJPh8XyJ3fTK2hLFJ/three-dialogues-on-identity
+
+"I'm not from around here; I'm from another dimension"
+
+activity group selecting on T ...
+
+But the angle between the line between me and my sister, and the line between me and my female analogue, is the [arctangent](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_trigonometric_functions) of the difference-between-same-sex-siblings and the difference-between-sexes, which is small if sex differences are a lot larger than same-sex sibling differences (with respect to whatever metric on personspace we're using).
+
+[the direction of causality](http://zackmdavis.net/blog/2016/07/concerns/)
+http://zackmdavis.net/blog/2016/09/concerns-ii/
+
+address GI->AGP direction
+
+(The scintillating but ultimately untrue thought.)
+
+Fit in somewhere—
+https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/KmghfjH6RgXvoKruJ/hand-vs-fingers
+
+I'm not objecting to your existence, I'm only objecting to the prerequisites to your existence
+
+
+(See Tailcalled on "zooming in" on the typology to at least a four node graph.)
+
+But once you stop taking the "gender identity"/"woman trapped in a man's body" story as _axiom_ and
+
+
+It's possible to disagree with people's _theoretical account_ of their own psychology, without doubting the honesty of their self-report, in the sense that people are doing their best to translate the ineffable _qualia_ of their experience into words.
+
+[throw a chair](/2019/Jan/use-it-or-lose-it/) and yell, "How dumb do you think we are?!"
+
+The claim is not that the trans woman who describes her experience as an "internal sense of her own gender" is lying.
+
+If someone claims to have an inter
+
+https://surveyanon.wordpress.com/2019/10/27/the-mathematical-consequences-of-a-toy-model-of-gender-transition/
+
+You might ask, what do I mean by "as a first approximation"?
+
+/2018/Jan/dont-negotiate-with-terrorist-memeplexes/#a-thing-about-me
+
+_You have to let me show you what you are_.
+
+> The absolute inadequacy of every single institution in the civilization of magical Britain is what happened! You cannot comprehend it, boy! I cannot comprehend it! It has to be seen and even then it cannot be believed!
+http://www.hpmor.com/chapter/108
+
+> The realization blasted through Harry like a vast dam breaking, releasing out all its water, bursting through his mind in an irresistible flood that swept everything away.
+> There is only one reality that generates all of the observations.
-as demonstrated by the likes of [FaceApp](https://www.faceapp.com/), the _uniquely best piece of software in the world_.
+(http://www.hpmor.com/chapter/104)
-(Note that we can already basically do this for _images_ of female and male faces, using the [latent spaces found by generative adversarial networks]() and [autoencoders](),
+It's not a gender identity; it's a sexual orientation that's surprisingly easy to misinterpret as a gender identity
-Doing it for _actual whole people in the real world_ and not just flat images is a task for future superintelligences, not present-day GANs, but some of same basic principles should apply.)
+The level above "Many-worlds is obviously correct, stop being stupid" is "Racial IQ differences are obviously real; stop being stupid"
-[TODO: Mathematically,
-Joel et al. and response—maybe in next paragraph
-Beyond the Binary: https://www.pnas.org/content/112/50/15468
-http://cogprints.org/10046/1/Delgiudice_etal_critique_joel_2015.pdf
+https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/03/24/guided-by-the-beauty-of-our-weapons/
+my pseudobisexual moments
-> once you draw a boundary around a group, the mind starts trying to harvest similarities from the group. And unfortunately the human pattern-detectors seem to operate in such overdrive that we see patterns whether they're there or not; a weakly negative correlation can be mistaken for a strong positive one with a bit of selective memory.
-https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/veN86cBhoe7mBxXLk/categorizing-has-consequences
+Anyway, four years later, it turns out that this whole "rationality" subculture is completely fake. The thing that convinced me of this was not _even_ the late-onset-gender-dysphoria-in-males-is-not-an-intersex-condition thesis that I was originally trying to talk about. Humans are _really complicated_: no matter how "obvious" something in psychology or social science to me, I can't write someone off entirely simply for disagreeing, because the whole domain is so complex that I always have to acknowledge that, ultimately, I could just be wrong.
-96.8% classification from MRI https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6374327/
-]
-[the wrists: http://unremediatedgender.space/papers/yune_et_al-beyond_human_perception_sexual_dimorphism_in_hand_and_wrist_radiographs.pdf]
+But in the _process_ of trying to _talk about_ this late-onset-gender-dysphoria-in-males-is-not-an-intersex-condition thesis, I noticed that my conversations kept getting _derailed_ on some variation of "The word _woman_ doesn't necessarily mean that." _That_ part of the debate, I knew I could win.
-Face editing with Generative Adversarial Networks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCKbRCUyop8
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+[dark side epistemology, what the math actually means in the real world from "Reply to Holden"]
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