X-Git-Url: http://unremediatedgender.space/source?p=Ultimately_Untrue_Thought.git;a=blobdiff_plain;f=notes%2Fa-hill-of-meaning-sections.md;fp=notes%2Fa-hill-of-meaning-sections.md;h=06174edafcdfdcf0054816feccc7fb1ac60ad22f;hp=0ed0550325d61667240b6e43cbf2c197ed54fdc8;hb=1716ead9977e791d663d90ae14f26630730603e5;hpb=223834364e292c95f05c00697a53b567a6abe52c diff --git a/notes/a-hill-of-meaning-sections.md b/notes/a-hill-of-meaning-sections.md index 0ed0550..06174ed 100644 --- a/notes/a-hill-of-meaning-sections.md +++ b/notes/a-hill-of-meaning-sections.md @@ -118,6 +118,8 @@ No one seemed to notice at the time, but this characterization of our movement [ What I would have _hoped_ for from a systematically correct reasoning community worthy of the brand name is one goddamned place in the whole goddamned world where _good arguments_ would propagate through the population no matter where they arose, "guided by the beauty of our weapons" ([following Scott Alexander](https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/03/24/guided-by-the-beauty-of-our-weapons/) [following Leonard Cohen](https://genius.com/1576578)). +[missing mood] + Instead, I think what actually happens is that people like Yudkowsky and Alexander rise to power on the strength of good arguments and entertaining writing (but mostly the latter), and then everyone else sort-of absorbs most of their worldview (plus noise and conformity with the local environment)—with the result that if Yudkowsky and Alexander _aren't interested in getting the right answer_ (in public)—because getting the right answer in public would be politically suicidal—then there's no way for anyone who didn't [win the talent lottery](https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/01/31/the-parable-of-the-talents/) to fix the public understanding by making better arguments. It makes sense for public figures to not want to commit political suicide! Even so, it's a _problem_ if public figures whose brand is premised on the ideal of _systematically correct reasoning_, end up drawing attention and resources into a subculture that's optimized for tricking men into cutting their dick off on false pretenses. (Although note that Alexander has [specifically disclaimed aspirations or pretentions to being a "rationalist" authority figure](https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/07/04/some-clarifications-on-rationalist-blogging/); that fate befell him without his consent because he's just too good and prolific of a writer compared to everyone else.)