X-Git-Url: http://unremediatedgender.space/source?p=Ultimately_Untrue_Thought.git;a=blobdiff_plain;f=notes%2Fa-hill-of-validity-sections.md;h=59c6b639746fc957b9463cb413f35bfb198f894c;hp=b4355010327241cf5e922e900355c0b287ce23e7;hb=a70e029bfeb9bafeedc585ff552c74f93efe31ff;hpb=cb4c41507e8f8cd97861b4a9953166c609b1fb0e diff --git a/notes/a-hill-of-validity-sections.md b/notes/a-hill-of-validity-sections.md index b435501..59c6b63 100644 --- a/notes/a-hill-of-validity-sections.md +++ b/notes/a-hill-of-validity-sections.md @@ -1,3 +1,31 @@ +editing tier— +_ better explanation of posse formation +_ Emperor Norton ordered Hayes executed +_ address the "maybe it's good to be called names" point from "Hill" thread +_ maybe quote Michael's Nov 2018 texts? +_ the right way to explain how I'm respecting Yudkowsky's privacy +_ clarify sequence of outreach attempts +_ clarify existence of a shadow posse member +_ mention Nov. 2018 conversation with Ian somehow +_ Said on Yudkowsky's retreat to Facebook being bad for him +_ Discord discourse with Alicorner +_ screenshot Rob's Facebook comment which I link +_ explain first use of Center for Applied Rationality +_ erasing agency of Michael's friends, construed as a pawn +_ Anna thought badmouthing Michael was OK by Michael's standards + +people to consult before publishing, for feedback or right of objection— +_ Iceman +_ Ben/Jessica +_ Scott +_ Anna +_ secret posse member +_ someone from Alicorner #drama as a hostile prereader +(probably don't bother with Michael?) + + +------- + The thing about our crowd is that we have a lamentably low proportion of women (13.3% cis women in the last community survey) and—I don't know when this happened; it certainly didn't feel like this back in 'aught-nine—an enormous number of trans women relative to population base rates (2.7%, for a cis-to-trans ratio of 4.9!!), the vast majority of whom I expect to be AGP https://slatestarscratchpad.tumblr.com/post/142995164286/i-was-at-a-slate-star-codex-meetup. "We are solving the gender ratio issue one transition at a time" @@ -122,8 +150,6 @@ I'm trying to _get the theory right_. My main victory condition is getting the t It worked once, right? -(Picture me playing Hermione Granger in a post-Singularity [holonovel](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Holo-novel_program) adaptation of _Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality_ (Emma Watson having charged me [the standard licensing fee](/2019/Dec/comp/) to use a copy of her body for the occasion): "[We can do anything if we](https://www.hpmor.com/chapter/30) exert arbitrarily large amounts of [interpretive labor](https://acesounderglass.com/2015/06/09/interpretive-labor/)!") - > An extreme case in point of "handwringing about the Overton Window in fact constituted the Overton Window's implementation" OK, now apply that to your Kolomogorov cowardice https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1373004525481598978 @@ -212,6 +238,7 @@ I got a pingback to "Optimized Propaganda" from in an "EDIT 5/21/2021" on https: https://slatestarcodex.com/2020/02/10/autogenderphilia-is-common-and-not-especially-related-to-transgender/ +https://twitter.com/HiFromMichaelV/status/1221771020534788098 "Rationalism starts with the belief that arguments aren't soldiers, and ends with the belief that soldiers are arguments." The Eliezer Yudkowsky I remember wrote about [how facts are tightly-woven together in the Great Web of Causality](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/wyyfFfaRar2jEdeQK/entangled-truths-contagious-lies), such that [people who are trying to believe something false have an incentive to invent and spread fake epistemology lessons](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/XTWkjCJScy2GFAgDt/dark-side-epistemology), and about the [high competence threshold that _forces_ correct conclusions](http://sl4.org/archive/0602/13903.html). @@ -401,6 +428,9 @@ back in 'aught-nine, Anna commented that no one in our circle was that old, as i Really, self-respecting trans people who care about logical consistency should abhor Scott and Eliezer's opinions—you should want people to use the right pronouns _because_ of your gender soul or _because_ your transition actually worked, not because categories are flexible and pronouns shouldn't imply gender +https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1435605868758765568 +> Because it was you, I tried to read this when it came out. But you do not know how to come to a point, because you are too horrified by the thought that a reader might disagree with you if you don't write even more first; so then I started skimming, and then I gave up. + > If you think you can win a battle about 2 + 3 = 5, then it can feel like victory or self-justification to write a huge long article hammering on that; but it doesn't feel as good to engage with how the Other does not think they are arguing 2 + 3 = 6, they're talking about 2 * 3. https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1435618825198731270 @@ -1112,3 +1142,24 @@ where body fat is an advantage. It really is an apples-to-oranges comparison, rather than "two populations of apples with different mean weight". For example, the _function_ of sex-segrated bathrooms is to _protect females from males_, where "females" and "males" are natural clusters in configuration space that it makes sense to want words to refer to. + +all I actually want out of a post-Singularity utopia is the year 2007 except that I personally have shapeshifting powers + +The McGongall turning into a cat parody may actually be worth fitting in—McCongall turning into a cat broke Harry's entire worldview. Similarly, the "pretend to turn into a cat, and everyone just buys it" maneuver broke my religion + + * https://everythingtosaveit.how/case-study-cfar/#attempting-to-erase-the-agency-of-everyone-who-agrees-with-our-position + +Michael on EA suppressing credible criticism https://twitter.com/HiFromMichaelV/status/1559534045914177538 + +"epistemic hero" +https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1096769579362115584 + +zinger from 93— +> who present "this empirical claim is inconsistent with the basic tenets of my philosophy" as an argument against the _claim_ + +reply to my flipping out at Jeff Ladish +https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1356493440041684993 + +We don't believe in privacy +> Privacy-related social norms are optimized for obscuring behavior that could be punished if widely known [...] an example of a paradoxical norm that is opposed to enforcement of norms-in-general"). +https://unstableontology.com/2021/04/12/on-commitments-to-anti-normativity/