X-Git-Url: http://unremediatedgender.space/source?p=Ultimately_Untrue_Thought.git;a=blobdiff_plain;f=notes%2Fa-hill-of-validity-sections.md;h=64b1680e63e8645136588b343e4e5962f51c6140;hp=7de2d76afb619783b078b0d538366debd746e27c;hb=48e72f58d89b7b152bed0ab0b14d9beeb59d0547;hpb=2ee8d8fd7b34a3839189951080a033bfb2291184 diff --git a/notes/a-hill-of-validity-sections.md b/notes/a-hill-of-validity-sections.md index 7de2d76..64b1680 100644 --- a/notes/a-hill-of-validity-sections.md +++ b/notes/a-hill-of-validity-sections.md @@ -1,15 +1,7 @@ -on deck— -_ Let's recap -_ If he's reading this ... -_ Perhaps if the world were at stake -_ ¶ about social justice and defying threats -_ ¶ about body odors -_ regrets and wasted time -_ talk about the 2019 Christmas party -_ excerpt 2nd "out of patience" email - - with internet available— +_ https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QB9eXzzQWBhq9YuB8/rationalizing-and-sitting-bolt-upright-in-alarm#YQBvyWeKT8eSxPCmz +_ Ben on "community": http://benjaminrosshoffman.com/on-purpose-alone/ +_ check date of univariate fallacy Tweet and Kelsey Facebook comment _ Soares "excited" example _ EA Has a Lying Problem _ when did I ask Leon about getting easier tasks? @@ -37,9 +29,11 @@ _ retrieve comment on pseudo-lies post in which he says its OK for me to comment far editing tier— +_ tie off Anna's plot arc? _ quote one more "Hill of Meaning" Tweet emphasizing fact/policy distinction _ conversation with Ben about physical injuries (this is important because it explains where the "cut my dick off rhetoric" came from) _ context of his claim to not be taking a stand +_ clarify "Merlin didn't like Vassar" example about Mike's name _ rephrase "gamete size" discussion to make it clearer that Yudkowsky's proposal also implicitly requires people to be agree about the clustering thing _ smoother transition between "deliberately ambiguous" and "was playing dumb"; I'm not being paranoid for attributing political motives to him, because he told us that he's doing it _ when I'm too close to verbatim-quoting someone's email, actually use a verbatim quote and put it in quotes @@ -1253,11 +1247,11 @@ Yudkowsky did [quote-Tweet Colin Wright on the univariate fallacy](https://twitt "Univariate fallacy" also a concession (which I got to cite in which I cited in "Schelling Categories") -https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/07/04/some-clarifications-on-rationalist-blogging/ + "Yes Requires the Possibility of No" 19 May https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/WwTPSkNwC89g3Afnd/comment-section-from-05-19-2019 -scuffle on LessWrong FAQ 31 May https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/MqrzczdGhQCRePgqN/feedback-requested-draft-of-a-new-about-welcome-page-for#iqEEme6M2JmZEXYAk +scuffle on LessWrong FAQ 31 May "epistemic defense" meeting @@ -1297,11 +1291,19 @@ I was _furious_ at "Against Lie Inflation"—oh, so _now_ you agree that making ] -[TODO: Yudkowsky throwing NRx under the bus; tragedy of recursive silencing -15 Sep Glen Weyl apology -] Scott said he liked "monastic rationalism _vs_. lay rationalism" as a frame for the schism Ben was proposing. (I wish I could use this line) -I really really want to maintain my friendship with Anna despite the fact that we're de facto political enemies now. (And similarly with, e.g., Kelsey, who is like a sister-in-law to me (because she's Merlin Blume's third parent, and I'm Merlin's crazy racist uncle).) \ No newline at end of file +I really really want to maintain my friendship with Anna despite the fact that we're de facto political enemies now. (And similarly with, e.g., Kelsey, who is like a sister-in-law to me (because she's Merlin Blume's third parent, and I'm Merlin's crazy racist uncle).) + + +https://twitter.com/esyudkowsky/status/1164332124712738821 +> I unfortunately have had a policy for over a decade of not putting numbers on a few things, one of which is AGI timelines and one of which is *non-relative* doom probabilities. Among the reasons is that my estimates of those have been extremely unstable. + + +I don't, actually, know how to prevent the world from ending. Probably we were never going to survive. (The cis-human era of Earth-originating intelligent life wasn't going to last forever, and it's hard to exert detailed control over what comes next.) But if we're going to die either way, I think it would be _more dignified_ if Eliezer Yudkowsky were to behave as if he wanted his faithful students to be informed. Since it doesn't look like we're going to get that, I think it's _more dignified_ if his faithful students _know_ that he's not behaving like he wants us to be informed. And so one of my goals in telling you this long story about how I spent (wasted?) the last six years of my life, is to communicate the moral that + +and that this is a _problem_ for the future of humanity, to the extent that there is a future of humanity. + +Is that a mean thing to say about someone to whom I owe so much? Probably. But he didn't create me to not say mean things. If it helps—as far as _I_ can tell, I'm only doing what he taught me to do in 2007–9: [carve reality at the joints](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/esRZaPXSHgWzyB2NL/where-to-draw-the-boundaries), [speak the truth even if your voice trembles](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/pZSpbxPrftSndTdSf/honesty-beyond-internal-truth), and [make an extraordinary effort](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/GuEsfTpSDSbXFiseH/make-an-extraordinary-effort) when you've got [Something to Protect](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/SGR4GxFK7KmW7ckCB/something-to-protect).