X-Git-Url: http://unremediatedgender.space/source?p=Ultimately_Untrue_Thought.git;a=blobdiff_plain;f=notes%2Fsexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-notes.md;h=0a7a60251eba35092c540fb42574d7ff2dbfefc6;hp=ddaf61c59bdbe2d7277a78221e58bc479ded904b;hb=2aa6746ecee4345b734df74c031ef56521929bd1;hpb=d8bb4ace8b61a9225210df2df8ffdb57bdfb94c0 diff --git a/notes/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-notes.md b/notes/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-notes.md index ddaf61c..0a7a602 100644 --- a/notes/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-notes.md +++ b/notes/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-notes.md @@ -9,20 +9,18 @@ https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/jNAAZ9XNyt82CXosr/mirrors-and-paintings * the literature talks about crossdressing a lot, but I mostly just fantasize; dress-up isn't really convincing +* not a theory of trans men +* [the autogynephilic analogue of romantic love](/papers/lawrence-becoming_what_we_love.pdf) (Picture me playing Hermione Granger in a post-Singularity [holonovel](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Holo-novel_program) adaptation of _Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality_ (Emma Watson having charged me [the standard licensing fee](/2019/Dec/comp/) to use a copy of her body for the occasion): "[We can do anything if we](https://www.hpmor.com/chapter/30) exert arbitrarily large amounts of [interpretive labor](https://acesounderglass.com/2015/06/09/interpretive-labor/)!") - * my vocabulary is trained on the robot cult - Aren't those trans women going to be _embarrrassed_ after the Singularity, when telepathy tech makes everything obvious like the time I snuck a copy of _Men Trapped in Men's Bodies: Narratives of Autogynephilic Transsexualism_ into the [MIRI](https://intelligence.org/) office library. (It seemed like something Harry Potter-Evans-Verres would do—and ominously, I noticed, not like something Hermione Granger would do.) - - If I sound angry, it's because I actually _do_ feel a lot of anger, but I wish I knew how to more reliably convey its target. Some trans people who see my writing tend to assume I'm self-hating, suffering from false consciousness, that my pious appeals to objectivity and reason are [just a facade](https://sinceriously.fyi/false-faces/) concealing my collaboration with a cissexist social order, that I'm in cowardly thrall to scapegoating instincts: "I'm one of the good, compliant ones—not one of those weird bad trans people who will demand their rights! _They're_ the witches, not me; burn them, not me!" I have [no grounds to fault anyone for not taking my self-report as unquestionable](/2016/Sep/psychology-is-about-invalidating-peoples-identities/)—the urge to scapegoat and submit to the dominant player is definitely a thing—but I really think this is reading me wrong? @@ -45,8 +43,6 @@ What happens when every sensitive bookish male who thinks [it might be cool to b Anne Lawrence described autogynephiles as ["men who love women and want to become what they love."](/papers/lawrence-becoming_what_we_love.pdf) But it's worse than that. We're men who love what we _wish_ women were, and want to become _that_. - - * "The Opposite Sex" * EY was right about "men need to think about themselves _as men_" (find cite) @@ -58,7 +54,6 @@ https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/qCsxiojX7BSLuuBgQ/the-super-happy-people-3-8 our analogues would make a good couple in a nearby alternate universe where at least one of us is female. "Exactly one," he said. "It's California in the year 2015," I said.] - https://fairplayforwomen.com/pronouns/ "people who have sexual fetishes that can't possibly be realized using existing technology [...] like the guy who gets on by entropy decreasing in a closed system" @@ -66,6 +61,10 @@ https://qwantz.com/index.php?comic=1049 * If I want to stay aligned with women, then figuring out how to do that depends on the facts about actual sex differences; if I want to do the value-exchange suggested in +Normal straight men also have positive-valence thoughts about women when they're not immediately horny. + +NYT hit piece https://archive.is/0Ghdl + ------ no safe defense https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/wustx45CPL5rZenuo/no-safe-defense-not-even-science @@ -89,14 +88,10 @@ https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/JBFHzfPkXHB2XfDGj/evolution-of-modularity "Prenatal testosterone exposure is related to sexually dimorphic facial morphology in adulthood" https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2015.1351 -> _Look in the mirror -> What's a white guy doing there? -> I'm just a spirit -> I'm just a spirit -> Floting in air, floating in air, floating in air!_ - the [Sara Bareilles tune I chose as the breakup song](https://genius.com/Sara-bareilles-gonna-get-over-you-lyrics) is probably etched deeper into my auditory cortex than my mother's voice + if my only choices of reading material are radfems who think I'm awful and trans activists who think I DON'T EXIST (!?!?!!?!), I actually feel better about the radfems + ----- people colluding to maintain a thin layer of social constructions; lies to cis people @@ -426,3 +421,8 @@ Cross-gender identity is a virtually sustained or intermittently occurring wishf twenty-one month Category War is as long as it took to write the Sequences https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/9jF4zbZqz6DydJ5En/the-end-of-sequences +Reading the things I do, and talking to the people I do, I see this pattern _over and over and over_ again, where non-exclusively-androphilic trans women will, in the right context, describe experiences that _sound_ a lot like mine—having this beautiful pure sacred self-identity thing about the idea of being female, but also, separately, this erotic thing on the same theme—but then _somehow_ manage to interpret the beautiful pure sacred self-identity thing as an inner "gender" and presumed brain-intersex condition, which I just—can't take seriously. (Even before contrasting to the early-onset type, which is what a brain-intersex condition _actually_ looks like.) + +All I've been trying to say is that, _in particular_, the word "woman" is such a noun. + +It _follows logically_ that, in particular, if _N_ := "woman", you can't define the word _woman_ any way you want. Maybe trans women _are_ women! But if you want people to agree to that word usage, you need to be able to _argue_ for why it makes sense; you can't just _define_ it to be true, and this is a _general_ principle of how language works, not something I made up on the spot in order to stigmatize trans people.