X-Git-Url: http://unremediatedgender.space/source?p=Ultimately_Untrue_Thought.git;a=blobdiff_plain;f=notes%2Fsexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-notes.md;h=711dc60ed12a973d3ad4cce818eb699c9956873e;hp=fb227b47113d0b60d1781e23ba376637f7402307;hb=222f3221c86ff7a64a0ab7fd6b5a904a7c0a594c;hpb=0dc3be71e7bd0c81c47fed92b00e4285eca98a39 diff --git a/notes/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-notes.md b/notes/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-notes.md index fb227b4..711dc60 100644 --- a/notes/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-notes.md +++ b/notes/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-notes.md @@ -23,6 +23,12 @@ Hi SneerClub! I noticed that you've enjoyed some of my [previous](https://www.re (From _my_ perspective, I'm pouring my heart out about the most important thing in my life, but if someone else with a different perspective would only sneer, then I can only hope to have been—if only for a moment, as part of a subroutine in the optimal sneer computation—_understood_. And for that moment, I am grateful.) +---- + +B.F. on JKR (https://www.facebook.com/duncan.sabien/posts/3883966591638029?comment_id=3884054068295948&reply_comment_id=3884243454943676): +> I am very glad that I don't have anyone with opinions similar to hers in my immediate vicinity, because I am pretty sure that if I did, my brain would constantly be running a scared loop in any social interactions with them. [...] I think it's important that people can write essays that are as far outside my personal Overton window as hers is outside it (because sometimes they're correct and I should update, even though I don't believe this is an instance of that) + +Duncan's voicing my concern: https://www.facebook.com/duncan.sabien/posts/3890320517669303 ----- @@ -37,11 +43,12 @@ https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/qCsxiojX7BSLuuBgQ/the-super-happy-people-3-8 * "I often wish some men/women would appreciate" * empathic inference: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/NLMo5FZWFFq652MNe/sympathetic-minds https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Zkzzjg3h7hW5Z36hK/humans-in-funny-suits https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/9fpWoXpNv83BAHJdc/the-comedy-of-behaviorism * study evidence that this is actually common -* AGPs dating each other is the analogue of "Failed Utopia 4-2"!! +* AGPs dating each other is the analogue of "Failed Utopia 4-2"!!—the guys in "Conservative Men in Conservative Dresses" are doing better in some ways * wipe culturally defined values * finding things in the refrigerator * https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/FBgozHEv7J72NCEPB/my-way https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/xsyG7PkMekHud2DMK/of-gender-and-rationality - +* make sure the late-onset/AGP terminology is introduced in a coherent order rather than being inserted willy-nilly +* the message length of my existence ----- Outline for remaining Coda— @@ -50,6 +57,13 @@ Outline for remaining Coda— * people have a political incentive to deny, but I'm making a fact-claim * I would have expected the "rationalists" to be interested in getting the right answer (quote the "20% of the ones with penises" Facebook post), but it doesn't look like that's happening +people colluding to maintain a thin layer of social constructions; lies to cis people + +[sympathetic minds gay couples anecdote] +Anne Lawrence described autogynephiles as ["men who love women and want to become what they love."](/papers/lawrence-becoming_what_we_love.pdf) But it's worse than that. We're men who love what we _wish_ women were, and want to become _that_. + +[I have seen the destiny of my neurotype, and am putting forth a convulsive effort to wrench it off its path. My weapon is clear writing.](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/i8q4vXestDkGTFwsc/human-evil-and-muddled-thinking) + ----- @@ -130,10 +144,6 @@ Just 'cause I'm butch and I'm a tranny girl -[sympathetic minds gay couples anecdote] -Anne Lawrence described autogynephiles as ["men who love women and want to become what they love."](/papers/lawrence-becoming_what_we_love.pdf) But it's worse than that. We're men who love what we _wish_ women were, and want to become _that_. - -[I have seen the destiny of my neurotype, and am putting forth a convulsive effort to wrench it off its path. My weapon is clear writing.](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/i8q4vXestDkGTFwsc/human-evil-and-muddled-thinking) https://archive.is/7Wolo > the massive correlation between exposure to Yudkowsky’s writings and being a trans woman (can’t bother to do the calculations but the connection is absurdly strong) @@ -198,10 +208,8 @@ https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/KmghfjH6RgXvoKruJ/hand-vs-fingers I'm not objecting to your existence, I'm only objecting to the prerequisites to your existence -From my email to Jessica— -> As you know, reality has a single level (physics), but our models of reality have multiple levels. To get maximally precise predictions about everything, you would have to model the underlying quarks, &c., which is impossible. (As it is written: the map is not the territory, but you can't roll up the territory and put in your glove compartment.) -> There could be situations in psychology where a good theory (not a perfect theory, but a good theory to the precision that our theories about engineering bridges are good) would be described by a 70-node causal graph, but it turns out that some of the more "important" variables in the graph happen to anti-correlate with each other, such that stupid humans who don't know how to discover the correct 70-node graph, do manage to pattern-match their way to a two-type typology that actually is better, as a first approximation, than pretending not to have a theory. (See Tailcalled on "zooming in" on the typology to at least a four node graph.) +(See Tailcalled on "zooming in" on the typology to at least a four node graph.) But once you stop taking the "gender identity"/"woman trapped in a man's body" story as _axiom_ and @@ -220,6 +228,26 @@ You might ask, what do I mean by "as a first approximation"? /2018/Jan/dont-negotiate-with-terrorist-memeplexes/#a-thing-about-me -Men who fantasize about being women do not particularly resemble actual women! We just—don't? This seems kind of obvious, really? _Telling the difference between fantasy and reality_ is kind of an important life skill?! +_You have to let me show you what you are_. + +> The absolute inadequacy of every single institution in the civilization of magical Britain is what happened! You cannot comprehend it, boy! I cannot comprehend it! It has to be seen and even then it cannot be believed! +http://www.hpmor.com/chapter/108 + +> The realization blasted through Harry like a vast dam breaking, releasing out all its water, bursting through his mind in an irresistible flood that swept everything away. +> There is only one reality that generates all of the observations. + +(http://www.hpmor.com/chapter/104) + +It's not a gender identity; it's a sexual orientation that's surprisingly easy to misinterpret as a gender identity + +The level above "Many-worlds is obviously correct, stop being stupid" is "Racial IQ differences are obviously real; stop being stupid" + +https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/03/24/guided-by-the-beauty-of-our-weapons/ + +my pseudobisexual moments + +Anyway, four years later, it turns out that this whole "rationality" subculture is completely fake. The thing that convinced me of this was not _even_ the late-onset-gender-dysphoria-in-males-is-not-an-intersex-condition thesis that I was originally trying to talk about. Humans are _really complicated_: no matter how "obvious" something in psychology or social science to me, I can't write someone off entirely simply for disagreeing, because the whole domain is so complex that I always have to acknowledge that, ultimately, I could just be wrong. + +But in the _process_ of trying to _talk about_ this late-onset-gender-dysphoria-in-males-is-not-an-intersex-condition thesis, I noticed that my conversations kept getting _derailed_ on some variation of "The word _woman_ doesn't necessarily mean that." _That_ part of the debate, I knew I could win. -_You have to let me show you what you are_. \ No newline at end of file +[dark side epistemology, what the math actually means in the real world from "Reply to Holden"]