From: M. Taylor Saotome-Westlake Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 06:46:14 +0000 (-0700) Subject: check in with an eye to finishing "Sexual Dimorphism" this weekend? X-Git-Url: http://unremediatedgender.space/source?p=Ultimately_Untrue_Thought.git;a=commitdiff_plain;h=0f7fede88b16b692f578bcfe82e33ae81a376ea4 check in with an eye to finishing "Sexual Dimorphism" this weekend? This can't just sit in development purgatory forver—every work is necessary bound to a point in time. (The everything-is-a-vector-space thing is already obsolete thanks to Swentworth!) I think I've cut my TODO list down to five items—and anything I missed can be booted to Part 2—for which I realized I can finally use the "Dangerous Idea ... Lucid Crossdreamer" title that I've had stockpiled for four years. --- diff --git a/content/drafts/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-in-relation-to-my-gender-problems.md b/content/drafts/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-in-relation-to-my-gender-problems.md index 42d7e61..bd3ebc1 100644 --- a/content/drafts/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-in-relation-to-my-gender-problems.md +++ b/content/drafts/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-in-relation-to-my-gender-problems.md @@ -238,9 +238,11 @@ Sex differences in the brain are like sex differences in the skeleton: anthropol Maybe this should just look like supplementary Statistics Details brushed over some basic facts of human existence that everyone knows? I'm a pretty weird guy, in more ways than one. I am not prototypically masculine. Most men are not like me. If I'm allowed to cherry-pick what measurements to take, I can name ways in which my mosaic is more female-typical than male-typical. (For example, I'm _sure_ I'm above the female mean in [Big Five Neuroticism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits).) ["[A] weakly negative correlation can be mistaken for a strong positive one with a bit of selective memory."](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/veN86cBhoe7mBxXLk/categorizing-has-consequences) But "weird" represents a much larger space of possibilities than "normal", much as [_nonapples_ are a less cohesive category than _apples_](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/2mLZiWxWKZyaRgcn7/selling-nonapples). If you _sum over_ all of my traits, everything that makes me, _me_—it's going to be a point in the _male_ region of the existing, unremediated, genderspace. In the course of _being myself_, I'm going to do more male-typical things than female-typical things, not becuase I'm _trying_ to be masculine (I'm not), and not because I "identify as" male (I don't—or I wouldn't, if someone could give me a straight answer as to what this "identifying as" operation is supposed to consist of), but because I literally in-fact am male in the same sense that male chimpanzees or male mice are male, whether or not I like it (I don't—or I wouldn't, if I still believed that preference was coherent), and whether or not I _notice_ all the little details that implies (I almost certainly don't). -Okay, maybe I'm _not_ completely over my teenage religion of psychological sex differences denialism?—that belief still feels uncomfortable to put my weight on. I would _prefer_ to believe that there are women who are relevantly "like me" with respect to some fair (not gerrymandered) metric on personspace. But, um ... it's not completely obvious whether I actually know any? (Well, maybe two or three.) When I look around me—most of the people in my robot cult (and much more so if you look the core of old-timers from the _Overcoming Bias_ days, rather than the greater Berkeley "community" of today) are male. Most of the people in my open-source programming scene are male. These days, [most of the _women_](/2020/Nov/survey-data-on-cis-and-trans-women-among-haskell-programmers/) in [my open-source programming scene](/2017/Aug/interlude-vii/) are male. Am I not supposed to _notice_? I could _assert_ that it's all down to socialization and stereotyping and self-fulfilling prophecies—and I know that _some_ of it is. (Self-fulfilling prophecies [are coordination equilibria](/2020/Jan/book-review-the-origins-of-unfairness/).) But I still want to speculate that the nature of my X factor—the things about my personality that let me write the things I do even though I'm [objectively not that smart](/images/wisc-iii_result.jpg) compared to some of my robot-cult friends—is a pattern of mental illness that could realistically only occur in males. (Yudkowsky: ["It seems to me that male teenagers especially have something like a _higher cognitive temperature_, an ability to wander into strange places both good and bad."](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/xsyG7PkMekHud2DMK/of-gender-and-rationality)) I can't assert _with a straight face_ that all the gaps _must_ vanish after the revolution, because _I've read the literature_ and can tell you several observations about chimps and [congenital adrenal hyperplasia](/images/cah_diffs_table.png) that make that seem _relatively unlikely_. +Okay, maybe I'm _not_ completely over my teenage religion of psychological sex differences denialism?—that belief still feels uncomfortable to put my weight on. I would _prefer_ to believe that there are women who are relevantly "like me" with respect to some fair (not gerrymandered) metric on personspace. But, um ... it's not completely obvious whether I actually know any? (Well, maybe two or three.) When I look around me—most of the people in my robot cult (and much more so if you look the core of old-timers from the _Overcoming Bias_ days, rather than the greater Berkeley "community" of today) are male. Most of the people in my open-source programming scene are male. These days, [most of the _women_](/2020/Nov/survey-data-on-cis-and-trans-women-among-haskell-programmers/) in [my open-source programming scene](/2017/Aug/interlude-vii/) are male. Am I not supposed to _notice_? -[TODO: if I did transition, and I did pass, and someone said, "I've never met a woman quite like you"] +Is _everyone else_ not supposed to notice? Suppose I transitioned. Suppose I passed. Suppose I caught the worshipful attention of a young man just like me ("a" young man, as if there wouldn't be _dozens_), who privately told me, "I've never met a woman quite like you." What would I be supposed to tell him? ["There's a _reason_ for that"](https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/purpleandskates/)? + +I could _assert_ that it's all down to socialization and stereotyping and self-fulfilling prophecies—and I know that _some_ of it is. (Self-fulfilling prophecies [are coordination equilibria](/2020/Jan/book-review-the-origins-of-unfairness/).) But I still want to speculate that the nature of my X factor—the things about my personality that let me write the things I do even though I'm [objectively not that smart](/images/wisc-iii_result.jpg) compared to some of my robot-cult friends—is a pattern of mental illness that could realistically only occur in males. (Yudkowsky: ["It seems to me that male teenagers especially have something like a _higher cognitive temperature_, an ability to wander into strange places both good and bad."](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/xsyG7PkMekHud2DMK/of-gender-and-rationality)) I can't assert _with a straight face_ that all the gaps _must_ vanish after the revolution, because _I've read the literature_ and can tell you several observations about chimps and [congenital adrenal hyperplasia](/images/cah_diffs_table.png) that make that seem _relatively unlikely_. I was once told by a very smart friend (who, unlike me, is not a religious fantatic), "Boys like games with challenges and points; girls like games with characters and stories." @@ -420,4 +422,4 @@ It would take some unfathomably bizarre twist of circumstances to induce me to w But such an absurd scenario couldn't actually happen, right? Um, to be continued. -_([Please subscribe](/feeds/all.atom.xml) for Part 2, "A River in Egypt" (coming someday), and Part 3, "A Hill of Validity in Defense of Meaning" (coming—someday later))_ +_([Please subscribe](/feeds/all.atom.xml) for Part 2, "Blanchard's Dangerous Idea and the Plight of the Lucid Crossdreamer" (coming someday), and Part 3, "A Hill of Validity in Defense of Meaning" (coming—someday later))_ diff --git a/notes/notes.txt b/notes/notes.txt index e1b08d5..7eb17d2 100644 --- a/notes/notes.txt +++ b/notes/notes.txt @@ -2554,3 +2554,9 @@ https://thenib.com/more-of-the-same/ https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/18/politics/white-supremacy-racism-asian-americans/index.html > In one sense, it's immaterial whether the accused killer in the Atlanta spa shootings admits to a racist motivation. Asian Americans, already traumatized by a rising tide of hate, violence and rhetoric, have been living in fear for months. + +https://old.reddit.com/r/CultureWarRoundup/comments/maffk1/march_22_2021_weekly_offtopic_and_loweffort_cw/gsa9hqt/ +> Tomboys are the best and I exclusively wage the culture war because progs and the lgbtq crap is a direct threat to the continued existence of tomboys. + +tomboy respecters +https://i.redd.it/xl8x1wixx7e51.jpg diff --git a/notes/post_ideas.txt b/notes/post_ideas.txt index 412a1d7..7322ea4 100644 --- a/notes/post_ideas.txt +++ b/notes/post_ideas.txt @@ -9,7 +9,7 @@ _ Overlapping Distributions and Cancellable Stereotypes (the standard GC argumen 2021 significant posts— _ Trans Kids on the Margin, and Harms From Misleading Training Data -_ A River in Egypt (part 2) +_ Blanchard's Dangerous Idea and the Plight of the Lucid Crossdreamer (part 2) _ A Hill of Validity in Defense of Meaning (part 3) _ Book Review: Kathleen Stock's Material Girls: Why Reality Matters for Feminism (May) _ Book Review: Charles Murray's Facing Reality: Two Truths About Race in America (June) @@ -20,10 +20,17 @@ LW— _ Communication Requires Common Interest or Costly Signals _ "You'll Never Persuade Anyone" - And the Wisdom to Know the Difference +_ agents with different learning algorithms would find it hard to agree on words? _ importance of getting the direction of causality right _ Multi-Level Moloch; Or, Technically, the Holocaust Was a Coordination Success _ Reasons to Go On _ Angelic Irony +Memetics vs. Discourse +Cromwell's Rule Is About Symmetry, Not Fairness +Honesty Is Activism +The Motte-and-Bailey Doctrine as Compression Artifact +Trading Political Favors Doesn't Build True Maps, But Correcting Errors Your Yourself Made, Does + _ E.Y. as case study on unconscious-lying and self-report ("their verbal theories contradict their own datapoints" https://www.facebook.com/yudkowsky/posts/10159408250519228?comment_id=10159411435619228&reply_comment_id=10159411567794228) @@ -180,11 +187,6 @@ Angelic Irony https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/trvFowBfiKiYi7spb/open-thread-july-2019/comment/RYhKrKAxiQxY3FcHa > I think sometimes I talk in a way that makes me seem more politically naïve than I actually am, because I feel as if the “naïve” attitude is in some way normative? (“You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?”) -Memetics vs. Discourse -Cromwell's Rule Is About Symmetry, Not Fairness -Honesty Is Activism -The Motte-and-Bailey Doctrine as Compression Artifact -Trading Political Favors Doesn't Build True Maps, But Correcting Errors Your Yourself Made, Does The Wisdom of Nature (I like the idea of transhumanism, but in practice, biology is just too complicated) https://nickbostrom.com/evolution.pdf @@ -323,7 +325,6 @@ game theory pain _ reply to Ozy on https://thingofthings.wordpress.com/2017/08/03/rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria-is-bad-science/ (when marketing in Culture War thread, maybe hat tip https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/9cir3w/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_of_september_03/e5c1h2c/ ) _ Q An Infovist's Advisory; Or, Standing Athwart History ... _ 5150 -Q Blanchard's Dangerous Idea and the Plight of the Lucid Crossdreamer; Or, Could Self-Reports Really Be That Wrong?? apartment patty diff --git a/notes/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-notes.md b/notes/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-notes.md index 08960be..b621fd5 100644 --- a/notes/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-notes.md +++ b/notes/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-notes.md @@ -1,14 +1,14 @@ Resolved: publish "Sexual Dimorphism" soon as just the first part, the political coda is too hard to finish in a timely manner and will have to be a separate post TODO for "Sexual Dimorphism"— -_ Never met a woman like you - _ transformation details matter: accents and homonyms, sexual orientation changing emotions/accent fantasies: https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/wAW4ENCSEHwYbrwtn/other-people-s-procedural-knowledge-gaps/comment/pheakgvLbFndXccXC _ EY was right about "men need to think about themselves _as men_" _ morality and culturally-defined values + _ Vassar clapback anecdote + _ playing dumb initials anecdote