From 44d617d2629a7508dfe9626392febe60f23205cf Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "M. Taylor Saotome-Westlake" Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 12:14:30 -0700 Subject: [PATCH] check in, incl. CAH notes (this textbook is gr9) --- content/drafts/book-review-facing-reality.md | 4 ++ ...dent-dysphoria-and-a-previous-lifes-war.md | 2 +- notes/a-hill-of-meaning-sections.md | 2 + notes/trans-kids-on-the-margin-notes.md | 49 +++++++++++++++++++ notes/trans-kids-on-the-margin-sections.md | 6 ++- 5 files changed, 61 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/content/drafts/book-review-facing-reality.md b/content/drafts/book-review-facing-reality.md index 9b460d0..5347820 100644 --- a/content/drafts/book-review-facing-reality.md +++ b/content/drafts/book-review-facing-reality.md @@ -88,3 +88,7 @@ https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2020/02/20/discovery-institute-makes-ha > I hold eugenics to be completely immoral and we should not attempt to implement it. https://twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1229890352275955713 + +https://www.edge.org/response-detail/23838/ +https://biohackinfo.com/news-china-gene-editing-criminal-law-article-336-march-2021/ +https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He_Jiankui_affair diff --git a/content/drafts/student-dysphoria-and-a-previous-lifes-war.md b/content/drafts/student-dysphoria-and-a-previous-lifes-war.md index 59db975..6a95b62 100644 --- a/content/drafts/student-dysphoria-and-a-previous-lifes-war.md +++ b/content/drafts/student-dysphoria-and-a-previous-lifes-war.md @@ -36,4 +36,4 @@ We could imagine someone sympathetic to my plight in school deciding that my pro I don't think this would be helping me. When I was angry about being in school, it wasn't because of _the word_ "student"—it was because I wanted more autonomy and I wanted more respect for my intellectual initiative. Changing the words without granting me the autonomy and respect I craved wouldn't be solving my _actual_ problem. It would probably make things _worse_ by sabotaging the concepts and language I needed to _articulate_ what my problem was. -And, really— [TODO: being a "student" would be fine in a world where students got more autonomy; I'm happy to learn from masters—that's what textbooks are; I wasn't delusional about doing original research] +And, really— [TODO: being a "student" would be fine in a world where students got more autonomy; I'm happy to learn from masters—that's what textbooks are; I wasn't delusional about doing original research; my pain and offsense wasn't "fake" just because it was game-theoretic] diff --git a/notes/a-hill-of-meaning-sections.md b/notes/a-hill-of-meaning-sections.md index 9ddb894..699096e 100644 --- a/notes/a-hill-of-meaning-sections.md +++ b/notes/a-hill-of-meaning-sections.md @@ -361,3 +361,5 @@ Taking it as a given that English speakers are stuck with gendered third-person [TODO: lit search or ask linguistics.stackexchange for literature on what gender/plural/case/&c. distinctions are for? Is it just the collision/ambiuity reduction, or is there something else? Oh, or Anna T./Elena might know] +https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/wqmmv6NraYv4Xoeyj/conversation-halters +> anything that people are motivated to argue about is not arbitrary. It is being controlled by invisible criteria of evaluation, it has connotations with consequences diff --git a/notes/trans-kids-on-the-margin-notes.md b/notes/trans-kids-on-the-margin-notes.md index 512bd0a..68f5fa5 100644 --- a/notes/trans-kids-on-the-margin-notes.md +++ b/notes/trans-kids-on-the-margin-notes.md @@ -139,7 +139,32 @@ Pellegrini, A. D. (2002). Perceptions of playfighting and real fighting: Effects Gaulin, S. J. C. & Fitzgerald, R. W. (1989). Sexual selection for spatial-learning ability. Animal Behaviour, 37, 322–331. +Goy, R. W., Bercovitch, F. B., & McBrair, M. C. (1988). Behavioral masculinization is independent of genital masculinization in prenatally androgenized female rhesus macaques. Hormones and Behavior, 22, 552–571 +Berenbaum, S. A. & Hines, M. (1992). Early androgens are related to childhood sex-typed toy preferences. Psychological Science, 3, 203–206. + +Berenbaum, S. A. & Snyder, E. (1995). Early hormonal infl uences on childhood sex-typed activity and playmate preferences: Implications for the development of sexual orientation. Developmental Psychology, 31, 31–42. + +Iijima, M., Arisaka, O., Minamoto, F., & Arai, Y. (2001). Sex differences in children’s free drawings: A study on girls with congenital adrenal hyperplasia. Hormones and Behavior, 40, 99–104 + +Servin, A., Nordenström, A., Larsson, A., & Bohlin, G. (2003). Prenatal androgens and gender-typed behavior: A study of girls with mild and severe forms of congenital adrenal hyperplasia. Developmental Psychology, 39, 440–450. + +Berenbaum, S. A., Duck, S. C., & Bryk, K. (2000). Behavioral effects of prenatal versus postnatal androgen excess in children with 21-hydroxylase-defi cient congenital adrenal hyperplasia. Journal of Clinical Endocrinology and Metabolism, 85, 727–733. + +Hines, M., Golombok, S., Rust, J., Johnston, K. J., Golding, J., & Avon Longitudinal Study of Parents and Children Study Team. (2002). Testosterone during pregnancy and gender role behavior of preschool children: A longitudinal, population study. Child Development, 73, 1678–1687. + +The boy analogue of the CAH studies— +Jürgensen, M., Hiort, O., Holterhus, P. M., & Thyen, U. (2007). Gender role behavior in children with XY karyotype and disorders of sex development. Hormones and Behavior, 51, 443–453. + +Alexander, G. M. & Hines, M. (2002). Sex differences in response to children’s toys in nonhuman primates (Cercopithecus aethiops sabaeus). Evolution and Human Behavior, 23, 467–479 + +Hassett, J. M., Siebert, E. R., & Wallen, K. (2004). Sexually differentiated toy preferences in rhesus monkeys. Hormones and Behavior, 46, 91. + +Serbin, L. A., Poulin-Dubois, D., Colburne, K. A., Sen, M. G., & Eichstedt, J. A. (2001). Gender stereotyping in infancy: Visual preferences for and knowledge of gender-stereotyped toys in the second year. International Journal of Behavioral Development, 25, 7–15. + +Benenson, J. F., Liroff, E. R., Pascal, S. J., & Cioppa, G. D. (1997). Propulsion: a behavioural expression of masculinity. British Journal of Developmental Psychology, 15, 37–50 + +Dessens, A. B., Slijper, F. M. E., & Drop, S. L. S. (2005). Gender dysphoria and gender change in chromosomal females with congenital adrenal hyperplasia. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 34, 389–397 ---- @@ -367,8 +392,32 @@ What useless surgery do they do?? intrauterine position in animals that have litters +Goy et al. gave androgens to pregnant rhesus monkeys at different times in pregnancy. Early administration masculinized genitals. Behavioral masculization along different dimensions varied with timing! +early admin—more mounting, less grooming +late admin—more mounting of peers only (not mom), more rough play + +> pretty normal variations in hormones are responsible for pretty normal variations in behavior + +evolutionary logic to why female default! (I had heard the observation before, but not the deep structural reason) +> both male and female fetuses are exposed to high levels estrogens from the mother, so if estrogen affected sexual differentiation in utero, then males would be exposed to a substance that would feminize them + +CAH girls are a goldmine for studying organizational effects: exposed to androgens prenatally, but not afterwards (there's medication for the disease) + +modern CAH studies were very careful: study CAH girls and unaffected sisters, videotape the interaction and have it scored by someone who doesn't know which kid has CAH; also study boys to make sure its the hormones and not the disease + +Measured interests several different ways, and it got replicated, including in Japan + +> They also say that they wish that their daughters with CAH were less masculine than they are, and, interestingly, that their daughters without CAH were more masculine than they are (Servin, Nordenström, Larsson, & Bohlin, 2003). + +and it's linear!! + +(authors are not sci-fi fans and use "people" and "human" interchangably) +> effect in people as it does in other species. +> When infants look at visual stimuli, boys prefer movement and girls prefer form and color (Serbin, Poulin-Dubois, Colbourne, Sen, & Eichstedt, 2001). In childhood activities, boys use motion more than girls do (Benenson, Liroff, Pascal, & Cioppa, 1997). In drawings, boys tend to draw mechanical and moving objects, use dark and cold colors, and have a bird’s-eye perspective, whereas girls draw human fi gures, fl owers, and butterfl ies, use light and warm colors, and array items in a row on the ground. +A section on gender ID, oh boy :/ +> androgen does not appear to have a large effect on gender identity, ----- diff --git a/notes/trans-kids-on-the-margin-sections.md b/notes/trans-kids-on-the-margin-sections.md index 343e973..80d5276 100644 --- a/notes/trans-kids-on-the-margin-sections.md +++ b/notes/trans-kids-on-the-margin-sections.md @@ -189,7 +189,11 @@ The conceptual distortions demanded by gender-identity ideology are [easy to dou _(Epistemic status: lit review)_ -[TODO: summarize Reiner's ["Psychosexual development in genetic males assigned female: the cloacal exstrophy experience"](http://unremediatedgender.space/papers/reiner-psychosexual_development_in_genetic_males.pdf) and the discussion of Reiner's work in Ch. 3 of [_The Man Who Would Be Queen_](https://surveyanon.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/the-man-who-would-be-queen.pdf); basically, it used to be standard practice for boys with a penis-destroying rare birth defect to be raised as girls; it didn't take about half the time, and kids for whom it did take are not obviously happy] +[TODO: summarize Reiner's ["Psychosexual development in genetic males assigned female: the cloacal exstrophy experience"](http://unremediatedgender.space/papers/reiner-psychosexual_development_in_genetic_males.pdf) and the discussion of Reiner's work in Ch. 3 of [_The Man Who Would Be Queen_](https://surveyanon.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/the-man-who-would-be-queen.pdf); basically, it used to be standard practice for boys with a penis-destroying rare birth defect to be raised as girls; it didn't take about half the time, and kids for whom it did take are not obviously happy + +Bradley, S. J., Oliver, G. D., Chernick, A. B., & Zucker, K. J. (1998). Experiment of nurture: ablatio penis at 2 months, sex reassignment at 7 months, and a psychosexual follow-up in young adulthood. Pediatrics, 102, e9. + +] ### 3.4 Switching Costs Are Not Obviously Trivial -- 2.17.1