From 636830314b8d0135f2d695c5e06ca9ffca9682bb Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "M. Taylor Saotome-Westlake" Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 22:21:53 -0800 Subject: [PATCH] check in --- notes/Feb_2017_Facebook_meltdown_guide.txt | 6 ++-- notes/categories-notes.md | 41 ++++++++++++++++++++++ notes/notes.txt | 11 ++++++ 3 files changed, 56 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/notes/Feb_2017_Facebook_meltdown_guide.txt b/notes/Feb_2017_Facebook_meltdown_guide.txt index 0b486b1..dce3bee 100644 --- a/notes/Feb_2017_Facebook_meltdown_guide.txt +++ b/notes/Feb_2017_Facebook_meltdown_guide.txt @@ -1,8 +1,10 @@ +Robby's comment: https://www.facebook.com/robbensinger/posts/10158073223040447?comment_id=10158073685825447&reply_comment_id=10158074093570447&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R2%22%7D + https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154807871200199 (some of you may have noticed) https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154808888680199 (Dear Totally Excellent Rationalist Friends) https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154810042700199 (model clicked, causality goes the other way) -https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154811044280199 -https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154811974995199 +https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154811044280199 (PC is just respect) +https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154811974995199 (if you make yourself really small ...) https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154812225235199 (Daphne Koller and the Methods) https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154812243735199 https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154812307555199 (priors are BAD) diff --git a/notes/categories-notes.md b/notes/categories-notes.md index 88229f8..8d865df 100644 --- a/notes/categories-notes.md +++ b/notes/categories-notes.md @@ -1,3 +1,33 @@ +need to work in— + +* my quip about men who love what we _wish_ women were +* address the "Puerto Rican women don't have exactly the same distribution as women as a whole" argument +* link "Blegg Mode" somewhere +* restrooms as safe spaces quote (if I can get permission) +* link Ozy on "We don't have a sex gap" +* call out the mendacity of "assigned at birth" +* link track post +* this a question of what social norms we want to negotiate + +As a rationalist, I want to protect people's freedom to describe the world as it + + +I don't _know_ what the optimal set of social norms around transitioning should be. + +the _idiot sophistry_ of, "Women are people who identify as women _by definition_ and definitions can't be wrong; look, Scott Alexander said so." + +We're _smarter_ than this. + +----- + +[Emperor Norton] + + +and no one is allowed to talk about the social problems because we're not supposed to use the phrase "actual women" to avoid hurting anyone's feelings ... this is CRAZY! I don't know what the right solution is! But the status quo is CRAZY. We're smarter than this! + +This is a question about what sort of social norms we want to establish, and different choices of social norms have different costs and benefits! In a world where trans isn't a thing, the standard is, "Pass as a natal woman, or be regarded as a man pretending to be a woman." This isn't good for autogynephilic transsexuals! Later, the standard became, "If if looks like you're sincerely trying to pass as a natal woman, we'll model you that way, even if you don't quite pass." This is a better deal for autogynephilic transsexuals! + + While a minority of trans women in Western countries fit the "classical transsexual" profile of being attracted to men, displaying lifelong female-typical social behavior and interests, and transitioning early. But the majority don't fit this pattern. (To interested readers who only have time to read one paper, I recommend Anne Lawrence's ["Autogynephilia and the Typology of Male-to-Female Transsexualism: Concepts and Controversies"](http://unremediatedgender.space/papers/lawrence-agp_and_typology.pdf) For a more exhaustive treatment, see Lawrence's book [_Men Trapped in Men's Bodies_](https://surveyanon.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/men-trapped-in-mens-bodies_book.pdf) or follow the links and citations in [Kay Brown's FAQ](https://sillyolme.wordpress.com/faq-on-the-science/).) @@ -167,3 +197,14 @@ At least, not yet. The current situation in (progressive enclaves of) Western co https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/02/when-i-was-raped-it-was-female-only-spaces-helped-me-recover caveats to the "male pattern of criminality" study: https://medium.com/@notCursedE/do-trans-women-retain-male-pattern-violence-df67954373fd + +/2018/Feb/blegg-mode/ + +----- + +Another (cis) female friend of the blog writes: + +> I think of women's restrooms as safe havens. If a suspicious looking man is following me on the street, or I am concerned about someone male being a danger to me because they are loud and shouty and sexist or catcalling, I will sometimes make a beeline for the nearest women's restroom because I know that is a safe haven. Other people might not intervene if someone is just suspiciously following me, but there is a strong taboo against men in women's restrooms and I feel confident that the men will either not follow me in there due to that taboo or other women will intervene if they do. It's also got useful plausible deniability; I, and potential bystanders, may not be willing to say "you are a possible instigator of violence and we feel unsafe" because that's rude, but we can say "you're not allowed in here, this is a woman's bathroom" because coming into the wrong bathroom is ruder. If that safe haven did not exist because there was no taboo against people who look male in female restrooms, I would be extremely distressed about the non-possibility of retreating somewhere safe, and be much less comfortable entering clubs or pubs or other public party/drink-themed spaces. It would likely cause me to not go to some of them. + +---- + diff --git a/notes/notes.txt b/notes/notes.txt index d9a4e52..1d8b178 100644 --- a/notes/notes.txt +++ b/notes/notes.txt @@ -468,3 +468,14 @@ vaticidalprophet - Today at 12:04 AM I can tell you're pretentious because you bothered to grab it, that's orthogonal Carrie Zelda-Michelle Davis - Today at 12:04 AM "... ligatrue?" "Yes." + +---- + +to say on FB after "The Categories" is finished?? + +So, hopefully this version is a lot clearer and less needlessly provacative than the kamikaze halt-melt-catch-fire public mental breakdown of this time last year: [blog link] + +[share memory] + +----- + -- 2.17.1