From 6f2f5332bad52a80a04b3a5aa38de90c7fd31ed7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: "M. Taylor Saotome-Westlake" Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2019 14:08:38 -0800 Subject: [PATCH] check in I really want to use that "Quarantine" quote somewhere, even if my planned reply to the "... Not Coming Out" post isn't happening --- ...hould-allocate-some-more-categories-but.md | 2 + ...phenotypic-identity-and-memetic-capture.md | 10 +-- ...sheer-goddamned-pointlessness-of-reason.md | 1 + ...transwoman-is-a-transitioned-transwoman.md | 7 +- notes/epigraph_quotes.md | 7 ++ notes/i-mean-yes-notes.md | 5 +- notes/notes.txt | 66 +++++++++++++++++++ notes/post_ideas.txt | 19 ++++-- 8 files changed, 100 insertions(+), 17 deletions(-) diff --git a/content/drafts/i-mean-yes-i-agree-that-man-should-allocate-some-more-categories-but.md b/content/drafts/i-mean-yes-i-agree-that-man-should-allocate-some-more-categories-but.md index 4287ce6..e5aab1a 100644 --- a/content/drafts/i-mean-yes-i-agree-that-man-should-allocate-some-more-categories-but.md +++ b/content/drafts/i-mean-yes-i-agree-that-man-should-allocate-some-more-categories-but.md @@ -176,3 +176,5 @@ I happily concede that fully consensual gender is a _coherent_ position. That do It's possible that I'm underestimating what feats of social-engineering are possible. We could imagine [TODO: it's possible that I'm underestimating the social-engineering feats that might be possible—it's kind of surprising that fiat money equilibria aren't also destroyed by a "How dumb do you think we are?" faction—but fiat money equilibria evolved over a long time for complicated reasons; you need more of an actual argument than "maybe things would be better"] + +[https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/12/radical-feminist-warned-refer-transgender-defendant-assault/ !!] diff --git a/content/drafts/phenotypic-identity-and-memetic-capture.md b/content/drafts/phenotypic-identity-and-memetic-capture.md index e80a503..a67937a 100644 --- a/content/drafts/phenotypic-identity-and-memetic-capture.md +++ b/content/drafts/phenotypic-identity-and-memetic-capture.md @@ -4,12 +4,10 @@ Category: commentary Tags: discourse, anecdotal Status: draft -> A woman came up to me and said -> "I'd like to poison your mind -> With wrong ideas that appeal to you -> Though I am not unkind" +> I'm beginning to wonder if he's constructed an entire system of moral philosophy around the effects of the loyalty mod—a prospect that makes me distinctly uneasy. It would hardly be the first time a victim of mental illness has responded to their affliction that way—but it would certainly be the first time I've found myself in the vulnerable position of sharing the brain-damaged prophet's impairment, down to the last neuron. > -> —"Whistling in the Dark" by They Might Be Giants +> —_Quarantine_ by Greg Egan + Studies have found that politics is hertiable, which sounds ridiculous, but it makes sense when you consider @@ -24,3 +22,5 @@ http://anechoicmedia.org/blog/european_politics/ https://status451.com/2017/11/05/i-see-trad-people/ Julia Serano / Robert Heinlein + +People who are concerned with social justice tend to be rightfully skeptical when privileged straight white men like me complain about identity politics. That's why, when the topic is misogyny or racism, I generally _shut up_—even if I might occasionally privately _think_ I might have something true and relevant to say about the costs of the culture of the political left teaching people to model themselves as helpless victims of a kyriarchical society, I also realize that _my opinion doesn't matter_. I'm not a woman or a racial minority; I don't have their lived experience; I _don't know what it's like_ to face the challenges they face. I don't have standing to speak. diff --git a/content/drafts/the-social-construction-of-reality-and-the-sheer-goddamned-pointlessness-of-reason.md b/content/drafts/the-social-construction-of-reality-and-the-sheer-goddamned-pointlessness-of-reason.md index fae2f6e..4b0b298 100644 --- a/content/drafts/the-social-construction-of-reality-and-the-sheer-goddamned-pointlessness-of-reason.md +++ b/content/drafts/the-social-construction-of-reality-and-the-sheer-goddamned-pointlessness-of-reason.md @@ -39,3 +39,4 @@ if you can mf everyone into beleiving that AGPs are really women, that actually but maybe you could get the good result without mfing??? +https://twitter.com/pangmeli/status/1079097805250224130 diff --git a/content/drafts/yes-the-only-real-transwoman-is-a-transitioned-transwoman.md b/content/drafts/yes-the-only-real-transwoman-is-a-transitioned-transwoman.md index 74b5339..cc85202 100644 --- a/content/drafts/yes-the-only-real-transwoman-is-a-transitioned-transwoman.md +++ b/content/drafts/yes-the-only-real-transwoman-is-a-transitioned-transwoman.md @@ -4,10 +4,6 @@ Category: commentary Tags: discourse, autogynephilia Status: draft -> I'm beginning to wonder if he's constructed an entire system of moral philosophy around the effects of the loyalty mod—a prospect that makes me distinctly uneasy. It would hardly be the first time a victim of mental illness has responded to their affliction that way—but it would certainly be the first time I've found myself in the vulnerable position of sharing the brain-damaged prophet's impairment, down to the last neuron. -> -> —_Quarantine_ by Greg Egan - People who are concerned with social justice tend to be rightfully skeptical when privileged straight white men like me complain about identity politics. That's why, when the topic is misogyny or racism, I generally _shut up_—even if I might occasionally privately _think_ I might have something true and relevant to say about the costs of the culture of the political left teaching people to model themselves as helpless victims of a kyriarchical society, I also realize that _my opinion doesn't matter_. I'm not a woman or a racial minority; I don't have their lived experience; I _don't know what it's like_ to face the challenges they face. I don't have standing to speak. But social progress marches on, and as old grievances recede into the mists of history, new ones take their place, and when the day comes to pass that the designated victim group of our age is _straight boys who wish they were girls_, then suddenly, [_I have standing_](/2017/Feb/a-beacon-through-the-darkness-or-getting-it-right-the-first-time/). Girl, do _I have standing!_ And I will put an _end_ to this _toxic bullshit_, because I am nobody's victim. @@ -50,3 +46,6 @@ Sometimes it is! Not in your case, though. https://medium.com/@jencoates/i-am-a-transwoman-i-am-in-the-closet-i-am-not-coming-out-4c2dd1907e42#.5dlc2qog6 > I wonder what this means — if the fact that I prefer girls is evidence of my boyhood. + + unintentionally darkly hilarious "I begin to show an interest in programming, which might be the most obvious sign so far" + \ No newline at end of file diff --git a/notes/epigraph_quotes.md b/notes/epigraph_quotes.md index 637185e..ee258e7 100644 --- a/notes/epigraph_quotes.md +++ b/notes/epigraph_quotes.md @@ -259,3 +259,10 @@ http://www.orwell.ru/library/essays/politics/english/e_polit/ > —Soviet proverb https://xkcd.com/1942/ + +> A woman came up to me and said +> "I'd like to poison your mind +> With wrong ideas that appeal to you +> Though I am not unkind" +> +> —"Whistling in the Dark" by They Might Be Giants diff --git a/notes/i-mean-yes-notes.md b/notes/i-mean-yes-notes.md index bbec328..4a616dc 100644 --- a/notes/i-mean-yes-notes.md +++ b/notes/i-mean-yes-notes.md @@ -92,4 +92,7 @@ But even if it's _possible_ to scrupulously rephrase any individual sentence to Say something about female primates defending their kin against male aggression, about males competing to control access to females -a male friend of the blog went through a period of dissassociating from his sexuality \ No newline at end of file +a male friend of the blog went through a period of dissassociating from his sexuality + + +"As no woman has ever referred to herself as ‘a person with a cervix’, there’s a real danger that misguided deference to trans activists will mean some women end up missing out on medical check-ups specific to their sex.": https://www.spiked-online.com/2018/12/26/the-year-of-trans-tyranny/#.XCNeJ5uEWR8.twitter diff --git a/notes/notes.txt b/notes/notes.txt index d93656c..6474d8e 100644 --- a/notes/notes.txt +++ b/notes/notes.txt @@ -845,6 +845,8 @@ https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/trans-man-sauna/amp/?__twitter_impression=tr https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-07238-8 more Yearwood: https://abcnews.go.com/US/transgender-teens-outrun-track-field-competitors-critics-close/story?id=55856294 +https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2810857-andraya-yearwood-knows-she-has-the-right-to-compete + https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6179341/Outrage-transgender-child-groomer-legally-female-womens-jail.html @@ -958,4 +960,68 @@ the MADTv sketch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgcLfohtFbE field report on TIMs in lesbian spaces: https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/9zgivf/peak_trans_viii_tell_your_story_here/ec8zecy/ +And like, I share all the same moral ideals (I was born in 1987 and grew up in California; I'm not some [bigoted redneck](http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/)). + +Yearwood again: https://www.theday.com/article/20170530/SPORT03/170539907 + +looking through scrollback with "Wilhelm"— + + "Politics Is the Mind; Loyalty to Existing Political Coalitions Is the Mind-Killer" + +genuine improvements and noise, and that we should be looking for clever strategies to roll back some of the noise while keeping the good parts + +"Wilhelm": "The preliminary results are not good, and they only look good inside a holiness bubble that is going to pop" + +I hate you guys so much +I'm making a pointed and deliberate effort to hate you so that I can continue to learn from you without getting eaten by your egregore + +Roissy says that the sum of masculinity and femininity in a relationship must sum to zero, and I can see how putting all of the masculinity in the man and all of the femininity in the woman is kind of useful in that it lets you reap the benefits of comparative advantage +but I don't want to be the guy, and like everyone else, I want my preferences to be high-status, which the status quo is sort of doing for me, albeit in a delusional self-destructive way that I hope is fixable + +"Restore patriarchy!" "Never! I mean, I see the point you're trying to make, but the real solution is embryo selection for more nerd girls!" + +I hear what you're saying, but, but, without bones of sympathy and approval from feminist women, where am I going to get my bones of approval and sympathy from feminist women?? It's like you're telling me to make fewer paperclips! + + +"Power that is not aligned with natural law leads to evil, because it requires constantly denying reality and punishing dissenters." +"OK, but I still want my own breasts" + +Scott got a lot of pushback just for including the blog that I showed him in a links post (Times have changed! BBL is locally quasi-mainstream after Ozy engaged) + +but I am starting to get a more detailed appreciation of how the thing-that-is-good-that-I-want-to-call-"individualism" has a lot of missing implementation details; "Everyone's self-reported self-identity must be uncritically respected" social norms are trying to maximize a certain kind of individual choice (you not only get to choose your gender, you can even write-in a new one!), but that choice is taking place in the context of a very specific delusional cultural environment that penalizes other kinds of individual choices (like criticizing the delusions) + +I'm sad that my update from "Blanchard is probably wrong because everyone's self-report says it's wrong" to "self-reports are pretty crazy" probably has implication for "Red Pill is probably wrong because everyone's self-report says it's wrong" + +when I asked the Licensed Clinical Social Worker how rare I was (wanting to try HRT while loudly denouncing trans ideology as retarded), he said he gets lots of nonbinary/"transfeminine", but had never met anyone who identified as AGP +he wants to talk to the team and have another appt before endocrinologist referal + +we should ban identities until we can figure out what's going on + +that would require taking power, which is hard + +but it's a good thought experiment... if you were appointed Gender Czar, what would you do? This is a rhetorical question, but I think what any decent person with good judgment would do is very, very different from what's happening. + +also, it's really personally convenient for me that the delusional identity politics happen to be favorable to my life-defining paraphilia, so I kind of have incentives to play along a bit + +as long as you don't describe yourself fully accurately + +yeah, it's really annoying, because in addition to my obligately autogynephilic sexuality, I'm also an obligate ultra positivist nerd who doesn't like playing along with cultural narratives that "she" thinks are false +you don't want me as Gender Czar, because I kind of like what's happening (to the extent that we can get away with it without being punished by Gnon), just not how people talk about it +if I get to be Eugenics Czar at the same time, I might be able to make up for it? + +You being Gender Czar would be an improvement to what's happening now. I'm not comparing you to my ideal Gender Czar, the thought experiment is that you compare your own judgment to Gender Moloch. +even if you didn't have any power over people, just the ability to give high status public statements would improve the rationality of the general area and shut down some of the holiness spirals occurring + +so while you're being successfully marginalized by the currently-reigning egregores, I'm happy to learn some sociology from you NRx guys, because I am an aspiring rationalist, and you have a lot of insights +but if you start gaining power in spaces that I care about, I kind of have to fight you to the death +for her + + + +W: 'Roles require that people support a consistent interface and contracts (in the programming sense). "Identities", "spectrums", "questioning", "finding oneself", and individualism in general break down the contracts and interfaces that others used to be able to rely on. The result is atomization, alienation between genders, and below replacement fertility. It's like a class in a dynamically typed language, where you have no idea what the methods or returned types are.' + +unless you have lots of fine-grained roles, "make sure the fence-sitters take the typical route" is really bad for me (screws over everyone who doesn't like the standard role, but isn't weird enough to qualify for a nonstandard one, and statistically, there are a lot more sort-of weird people than really-really weird people) + +Yes, exactly: https://twitter.com/pangmeli/status/1079097805250224130 +perceiving sex: https://twitter.com/janeclarejones/status/1079334679411675136 diff --git a/notes/post_ideas.txt b/notes/post_ideas.txt index f918ef5..ea977ec 100644 --- a/notes/post_ideas.txt +++ b/notes/post_ideas.txt @@ -1,8 +1,13 @@ -_ The Dialectic -_ The Social Construction of Reality and the Sheer Goddamned Pointlessness of Reason -_ Phenotypic Identity and Memetic Capture -_ Trying to Be Explicit (deadline 2 Jan 2019) -_ I Mean, Yes, I Agree That Man Should Allocate Some More Categories, But +26 Dec | The Dialectic +_ | The Social Construction of Reality and the Sheer Goddamned +asymmetrical trolls +_ | Phenotypic Identity and Memetic Capture +_ | Trying to Be Explicit (deadline 2 Jan 2019) +_ | I Mean, Yes, I Agree That Man Should Allocate Some More Categories, But + + +the thing to deny + @@ -20,6 +25,8 @@ _ "I Want to Be the One" _ The View From Nowhere +game theory pain + _ reply to Ozy on https://thingofthings.wordpress.com/2017/08/03/rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria-is-bad-science/ (when marketing in Culture War thread, maybe hat tip https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/9cir3w/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_of_september_03/e5c1h2c/ ) _ Friendship Practices of ... _ Q An Infovist's Advisory; Or, Standing Athwart History ... @@ -80,5 +87,3 @@ Q This Is Worth a Fight FICTION QUEUE (6)— story of Gina and Vern selected for GNC story about women engineers and male businesspeople - - -- 2.17.1