1 Title: Lies to Cis People Are, Unfortunately, Still Lies
4 Tags: epistemology, Ozy
7 This post is a response to Ozymandias's ["Lies to Cis People"](https://thingofthings.wordpress.com/2015/01/27/lies-to-cis-people/), and is part of my [continuing attempt](/tag/ozy/) to overthrow them as _de facto_ Gender Czar of the _Less Wrong_ diaspora. (Nothing personal, Ozy! We're still friends, right?)
9 Ozymandias appeals to the concept of _lies-to-children_: simple models that fail to , but which are worth teaching and diseminating on the grounds of their practical utility. Lies-to-children
11 It's important to distinguish
13 > It gives the average cis person the necessary information to treat trans people respectfully. Which is ... pretty much exactly the information they need
15 > Just because you were born with a vagina does not mean you are a woman.
17 Just because you were born with a vagina does not mean you are a woman with respect to the concept of womanhood
20 > Being trans is not the same thing as being really really gay.
22 Androphilic trans women and gynephilic trans men are, etiologically speaking
24 > You can be butch and a trans lady and you are still a trans lady and not Really A Man.
26 > Genderqueer people exist.
29 But bootstrapping is real, too: https://thingofthings.wordpress.com/2016/04/25/nonbinary-gender/