-But I would have expected people with the barest inkling of self-awareness and honesty to ... notice the incentives, and notice the problems being created by the incentives, and to talk about the problems in public so that we can coordinate on the best solution?
+But I would have expected people with the barest inkling of self-awareness and honesty to ... notice the incentives, and notice the problems being created by the incentives, and to talk about the problems in public so that we can coordinate on the best solution, [whatever that turns out to be](/2021/Sep/i-dont-do-policy/)?
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+And if that's too much to expect of the general public—
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+And it's too much to expect garden-variety "rationalists" to figure out on their own without prompting from their betters—
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+Then I would have at least expected Eliezer Yudkowsky to be _in favor of_ rather than _against_ his faithful students having these very basic capabilities for reflection, self-observation, and ... _speech_?
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+I would have expected Eliezer Yudkowsky to not _actively try to transform me into a Jane Austen character_.
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+[TODO section: rats from the Scott Alexander era will protest that I'm being uncharitable—failure of perspective taking; but I'm not complaining about Yudkowsky's subjective experience; I'm talking about a very clear pattern of behavior that's gone on for _years_]
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+[TODO: let's recap]
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+[TODO: the important thing is not being put in a box
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+student dysphoria—I hated being put in the box as student;
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+ Scott Alexander chose feelings, but I don't hold that against him; self-aggrandizement]
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