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+https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/j9Q8bRmwCgXRYAgcJ/miri-announces-new-death-with-dignity-strategy
+> If those people went around lying to others and paternalistically deceiving them—well, mostly, I don't think they'll have really been the types to live inside reality themselves. But even imagining the contrary, good luck suddenly unwinding all those deceptions and getting other people to live inside reality with you, to coordinate on whatever suddenly needs to be done when hope appears, after you drove them outside reality before that point. Why should they believe anything you say?
+
+the Extropians post _explicitly_ says "may be a common sexual fantasy"
+> So spending a week as a member of the opposite sex may be a common sexual fantasy, but I wouldn't count on being able to do this six seconds after the Singularity. I would not be surprised to find that it took three subjective centuries before anyone had grown far enough to attempt a gender switch.
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+Dath ilan has a concept of "the Light"—the vector in policyspace perpendicular outwards from the Pareto curve, in which everyone's interests coincide.
+
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+In dath ilan they talk about the Light—the policy vector that everyone can agree on
+
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+If you listen to the sorts of things the guy says lately, it looks like he's just completely given up on the idea that public speech could possibly be useful, or that anyone besides he and his flunkies is capable of thought. For example:
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+> "too many people think it's unvirtuous to shut up and listen to me" I wish I had never written about LDT and just told people to vote for reasons they understand when they're older [TODO full direct quote]
+https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1509944888376188929
+
+Notwithstanding that there are reasons for him to be traumatized over how some people have misinterpreted timeless decision theory—what a _profoundly_ anti-intellectual statement! I calim that this is just not something you would ever say if you cared about having a rationality community that could process arguments and correct errors, rather than a robot cult to suck you off.
+
+To be clear, there _is_ such a thing as legitimately trusting an authority who knows better than you. For example, the Sequences tell of how Yudkowsky once [TODO: linky] wrote to Judea Pearl to correct an apparent error in _Causality: Models, Reasoning, and Inference_. Pearl agreed that there was an error, but said that Yudkowsky's proposed correction was also wrong, and provided the real correction. Yudkowsky didn't understand the real correction, but trusted that Pearl was right, because Pearl was the authority who had invented the subject matter—it didn't seem likely that he would get it wrong _again_ after the original error had been brought to his attention.
+
+[TODO But crucially, "Defer to subject-matter experts" seems like a _different_ moral than "Too many people think it's unvirtuous to shut up and listen Judea Pearl."]
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+If Yudkowsky is frustrated that people don't defer to him enough _now_, he should remember the only reason he has _any_ people who defer to him _at all_ is _because_ he used to be such a good explainer who actually argued for things.
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+[TODO: if he had never spoken of TDT, why _should_ they trust him about voting?!]
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+[TODO That trust is a _finite resource_. Zvi Mowshowitz claims the condescension is important information, which is why it's such a betrayal when he uses the condesension to score points
+https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/ax695frGJEzGxFBK4/biology-inspired-agi-timelines-the-trick-that-never-works?commentId=HB3BL3Sa6MxSszqdq ]
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+Lightwavers on Twitter (who Yudkowsky knew from /r/rational) dissed Charles Murray on Twitter
+
+https://www.glowfic.com/replies/1817422#reply-1817422
+> Strength is an externally visible and measurable quality that determines who you want in your army; you don't need to go by the presence of penises.
+
+I'm skeptical that the "But the government can't have different laws for different groups" is something that would exist in dath ilan; it makes sense that we have this hangup in our world, but if you live in a Bayesian utopia in the first place, (a) you wouldn't have a taboo about using demographic categories for decisionmaking, and (b) you wouldn't have a special taboo about the _government_ doing so (that's dictating that the government is not allowed to be Bayesian because it's the government?!); it makes sense for evolutionarily novel things like dentists, but conscription is _the worst_ example
+
+"Different rules for different groups" is a solution to a social design problem; if you rule that out, you're ruling out a lot of the design space. This is still true even if you protest, "But you have to let people _leave_ the group if they don't want to be there; it's unjust to trap them there"
+
+It makes sense for Keltham to disapprove of the status of women in Osiron, but I'd expect the objection to be _concrete_ (women in particular deserve property rights in particular) rather than "principled" (the government can't pass laws based on sex), because the principle is Earth-craziness
+
+so, what I meant was, when you enshrine a principle, "The law can't treat you differently because you're a halfling" (that is, the law can only refer to low-dimensional traits; it's not allowed to use the covariance in the big salient clusters in thick subspaces of configuration space that correspond to "protected classes"), that's decreasing the expressive power of the law, restricting the ontology that the law is about to reason about: effectively saying that Governance has to be _less_ Bayesian _because it's Governance_. That's a totally natural thing to want _if you're a 21st century American_, but seems wildly out-of-character for everything else we know about dath ilan and its cultural assumptions about Bayesian reasoning and the assumption of good-faith governance