- "the love of a man for a woman, and the love of a woman for a man, have not been cognitively derived from each other or from any other value."
+"It is said that parents do all the things they tell their children not to do, which is how they know not to do them." https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/DwtYPRuCxpXTrzG9m/my-wild-and-reckless-youth
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+"don't ask me how I know this, and I won't tell you" https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/AeBfaMZt7e7ye38Hw/open-thread-november-1-15-2012#comment-ib37xYqDnJgxE285R
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+Men who _fantasize about_ being women, do not particularly rememble actual women?
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+([Amanda Marcotte](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Marcotte) once described one of my comments as "cute"! It ... was not a compliment.)
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+_Feminist Interpretations of Ayn Rand_
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+, like drugs and sex, it wasn't salient to me as something that actually happens in real life, rather than on television
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+(Where "girls" are the ones with a vagina, breasts, _&c._)
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+link "Optimized Propaganda" for one of the references to "some kind of causal relationship" for why I think that
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+changing emotions/accent fantasies: https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/wAW4ENCSEHwYbrwtn/other-people-s-procedural-knowledge-gaps/comment/pheakgvLbFndXccXC
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