-marked TODO blocks—
-✓ Boston [pt. 6]
-✓ Jessica's experience at MIRI and CfAR [pt. 6]
-✓ pandemic starts [pt. 4]
-✓ autogenderphilia (in-line section) [pt. 4]
-✓ last email and not bothering him [pt. 6]
-✓ the Death With Dignity era [pt. 6]
-✓ New York [pt. 6]
-✓ scuffle on "Yes Requires the Possibility" [pt. 4]
-✓ "Unnatural Categories Are Optimized for Deception" [pt. 4]
-✓ Eliezerfic fight: will-to-Truth vs. will-to-happiness [pt. 6]
-✓ Eliezerfic fight: Ayn Rand and children's morals [pt. 6]
-✓ AI timelines scam [pt. 4]
-✓ "Helen" crash [pt. 2]
-✓ confronting "Helen" [pt. 2]
-✓ Sophia [pt. 2]
-✓ Sophia correspondence details [pt. 2]
-✓ plans to visit Sophia [pt. 2]
-✓ technical discussion with Sophia
-✓ Rob's thread, first contact with Ben [pt. 2]
-✓ A/a alumna consult details [pt. 2]
-
-[pt. 2]
-✓ touch up Persongen explanation
-✓ touch up "Helen" key photo explanation
-✓ "Dear Totally Excellent Rationalist Friends"
-✓ explain date with "Noreen"
-✓ Lawrence language-policing
-✓ emails from Michael
-✓ October 11th post
-✓ commments on "Dear Totally Excellent Rationalist Friends"
-_ Daphne Koller and the Methods post
-_ comments on nice, mean versions
-_ mental state and visiting Divia
-_ sleepless Valentine's Day
-_ fully off the rails 15–17 February
-_ Sept. 2016 conversation with S.C.
-
-[pt. 6]
-- Eliezerfic fight: Big Yud tests me [pt. 6]
-_ Eliezerfic fight: derail with lintamande [pt. 6]
-_ Eliezerfic fight: knives, and showing myself out [pt. 6]
-
-[pt. 2]
-_ Jan. discussion with "Wilhelm" (should also include Sep. discussion?)
-_ "model clicked"/Feb. discussion with "Wilhelm"
+marked TODO
-_ psych ward [pt. 2]
-_ emailing Blanchard/Bailey/Hsu/Lawrence [pt. 2]
-
-- regrets, wasted time, conclusion [pt. 6]
+_ Eliezerfic fight conclusion
+_ Michael Vassar and the Theory of Optimal Gossip
-- "Lesswrong.com is dead to me" [pt. 4]
-_ secret thread with Ruby [pt. 4]
-_ progress towards discussing the real thing [pt. 4]
-_ epistemic defense meeting [pt. 4]
+_ psych ward
-- December 2019 winter blogging vacation [pt. 4]
-_ plan to reach out to Rick [pt. 4]
+- regrets, wasted time, conclusion
+- December 2019 winter blogging vacation
+_ plan to reach out to Rick
-_ reaction to Ziz [pt. 4]
-_ State of Steven [pt. 4]
-_ Somni [pt. 4]
-_ culture off the rails; my warning points to Vaniver [pt. 4]
-_ complicity and friendship [pt. 4]
-_ out of patience email [pt. 4]
-_ the hill he wants to die on [pt. 6?]
-_ recap of crimes, cont'd [pt. 6]
-_ lead-in to Sept. 2021 Twitter altercation [pt. 6]
+_ Somni
+_ reaction to Ziz
+_ State of Steven
+_ culture off the rails; my warning points to Vaniver
+_ complicity and friendship
+_ out of patience email
+_ the hill he wants to die on
+_ recap of crimes, cont'd
+_ lead-in to Sept. 2021 Twitter altercation
+_ Dolphin War finish
bigger blocks—
-- the story of my Feb. 2017 Facebook crusade [pt. 2]
-_ the story of my Feb./Apr. 2017 recent madness [pt. 2]
-_ Dolphin War finish
-_ Michael Vassar and the Theory of Optimal Gossip
-_ psychiatric disaster
+_ remaining Feb./Apr. 2017 recent madness
+_ "Lenore" psychiatric disaster
-not even blocked—
-_ "Even our pollution is beneficial" [pt. 6]
-_ Scott Aaronson on the blockchain of science [pt. 6]
-_ Re: on legitimacy and the entrepreneur; or, continuing the attempt to spread my sociopathic awakening onto Scott [pt. 2 somewhere]
-_ running away to Burlingame; Hamilton tickets
-_ include Wilhelm "Gender Czar" conversation? [pt. 2]
-_ "EA" brand ate the "rationalism" brand—even visible in MIRI dialogues
-_ Anna's heel–face turn
-_ "counterfactual boyfriend"/It's California in the year 2016
-
-it was actually "wander onto the AGI mailing list wanting to build a really big semantic net" (https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/9HGR5qatMGoz4GhKj/above-average-ai-scientists)
+------
With internet available—
-_
-_ Avatar state
-_ occasions when it was genuinely on-topic (link to "Changing Emotions" comments)
-_ patterns of refactored agency
-_ check timing of comments on nice/mean versions??
-_ Castro Theatre name/spelling
-_ look back at more of the Facebook posts from meltdown
-_ "Totally Excellent" root of the disagreement
-_ check that "Totally Excellent" comments with Noreen were all before movie date?
-_ Ben "put a Like on my comments", plural?
-_ "pretty productive blogging spree" should be links to minor posts
+_ Slate Star Codex on patient's rights being adversarial system
+_ was the "People are better at taking care of each other than institutions!" thing in the morning of Feb 17?? KP visit log might confirm?
+_ Kirutsugu spelling
+_ out-of-patience lead-in Tweets
+_ "Hermione knew the correct answer wouldn't impress Professor Quirrell"
+_ that public fight on Baez's blog
+_ Free to Be You and Me
+_ Thing of Things
+_ when was Ozy "On AGP" published?
+_ check meme theory links
+_ "nonplussed"
+_ "I begin to show an interest in programming, which might be the most obvious sign so far" (is this both versions of "not coming out" piece, or just the original?)
+_ The Parable of the Honest Man and the Thing
+_ Susan Fenimore Cooper
+_ Hidden Figures
+_ truth and reconciliation
+_ where did the super-AIDS example fit in the Eliezerfic fight cronologically?
+_ IQ 143 cite
+_ double-check "the mood I thought dath ilan was missing" link target
+_ double-check "the power that could not be removed" quote
+_ click through to the case study in "Self-Consciousness"
_ click-to-reveal spoiler block image
_ more Discord italics-correction
_ "around plot relevant sentences" ... only revealing, which, specifically?
-_ what was I replying to, re: "why you actually don't want to be a happier but less accurate predictor"?
_ relevant screenshots for Eliezerfic play-by-play
_ lc on elves and Sparashki
_ Michael Bailey's new AGP in women study
_ Arbital TDT explanation
_ find Sequences cite "if you don't know how your AI works, that's bad"
_ cover reply to my initial conspiracy complaint about dath ilan?
+_ Which Tweet motivated the "out of patience" explosion?
_ "not hard to find": link to more /r/itsafetish-like anecdotes
_ compile ancillary KP doctor's notes page and linky
+_ acknowledging Wei Dai and Vladimir Nesov's decision theory contributions
_ go back and read all the masochism tags: https://www.glowfic.com/replies/search?board_id=&author_id=366&template_id=&character_id=&subj_content=masochism&sort=created_old&condensed=on&commit=Search
_ stats of SIAI vs. SingInst hits (for ^siai footnote)
_ quote other Eliezer Yudkowsky facts
_ Yudkowsky's LW moderation policy
far editing tier—
+_ Ruby fight: "forces of blandness want me gone ... stand my ground" remark
+_ "Even our pollution is beneficial" [pt. 6]
+_ Scott Aaronson on the blockchain of science [pt. 6]
+_ Re: on legitimacy and the entrepreneur; or, continuing the attempt to spread my sociopathic awakening onto Scott [pt. 2 somewhere]
+_ running away to Burlingame; Hamilton tickets
+_ include Wilhelm "Gender Czar" conversation? [pt. 2]
+_ "EA" brand ate the "rationalism" brand—even visible in MIRI dialogues
+_ Anna's heel–face turn
+_ "counterfactual boyfriend"/It's California in the year 2016
+_ not talking about pivotal acts, downstream of not believing in Speech?
+_ Alyssa lying about me [pt. 4]
+_ Brian Skyrms??
+_ psych ward [pt. 2]
+_ emailing Blanchard/Bailey/Hsu/Lawrence [pt. 2]
+_ HRT (non-)effects, and quitting [pt. 2]
+_ mr-hire and pre-emptive steelmanning (before meeting LW mods)
+_ meeting with Ray
+_ need to mention Brent's pariah status
+_ be clearer about dates in "Wilhelm" conversations??
+_ "people with fragile identities" dialogue doesn't fit the flow, probably cut or move
+_ "maximize the number of trans ppl" conversation should briefly sample the guy's bogus conjunction of arguments
+_ is the Glowfic author "Lintamande ... they" or "Lintamande ... she"?
+_ explain plot of _Planecrash_ better
+_ CfAR's AI pivot??
+_ example of "steelman before criticize" norm
+_ explain mods protect-feelings
+_ explain MOPs better
+_ also had back-and-forth with "Noreen" on 8 Feb in Rob's thread!!
+_ Motta-Mena and Puts probability-of-gynephilia-by-intersex-condition graph, re trans kids on the margin
+_ what exactly goes in the December 2019 blogging spree §?
+_ "Noreen" discussion needs to cover the part where I'd cause less disruption if I transitioned
+_ "Noreen"'s girlfriend definitely needs to be mentioned
_ get exact dates and correct Sequencing on late 2016 conversations
_ mention Michael's influence and South Park recs in late 2016?
_ probably give Amelia as pseudonym?
-_ didn't "Helen" also send me $8 for the key, and the bank statement had her deadname on it?
_ re Persongen, footnote or sentences about how I knew I was wrong to use naïve-Bayes on facets, but I didn't know what was right
_ squeeze "Darkness and Light" into the Eliezerfic account
_ clarify Sarah dropping out of the coordination group
_ Said on Yudkowsky's retreat to Facebook being bad for him
_ erasing agency of Michael's friends, construed as a pawn
_ mention the fact that Anna had always taken a "What You Can't Say" strategy
+_ late 2016 meeting with Ziz
_ when to use first _vs. last names
_ explain why I'm not being charitable in 2018 thread analysis, that at the time, I thought it had to be a mistake
_ better summary of Littman
_ backlink Yudkowsky's implicit political concession
terms to explain on first mention—
+_ NRx
_ TERF?
_ Civilization (context of dath ilan)
_ Valinor (probably don't name it, actually)
_ secret posse member
_ "Chaya" (pseudonym choice)
_ Alicorn: about privacy, and for Melkor Glowfic reference link
-_ hostile prereader (April, J. Beshir, Swimmer, someone else from Alicorner #drama)
+_ hostile prereader (April—if not, J. Beshir, Swimmer, someone else from Alicorner #drama)
_ Kelsey
_ NRx Twitter bro
_ maybe SK (briefly about his name)? (the memoir might have the opposite problem (too long) from my hostile-shorthand Twitter snipes)
_ afford various medical procedures
_ Buck? (get the story about Michael being escorted from events)
_ A/a alumna??
+_ Sarah (name mention, whether to name conversation)
+_ Ray
+_ Ruby
+_ Kay Brown?? (assuming I include the delusional emails to her)
marketing—
_ Twitter
Friend of the blog Ninety-Three has been nagging me about my pathetic pacing—looking at the diffs of my wordcount spreadsheet, I have four thousand-word days in January, two in February, and two in March (which is half-over). He ... has a point. With no dayjob and no responsibilities, four-figure wordcount days should be normal, something that happens four times a week, not four times a month.
+-------
+
+It might actually make sense for this to get split into eight parts??—I'm going to finish the five-part draft first before doing any more splitting. But—
+
+Here's where we stand now—
+
+24K Blanchard's Dangerous Idea and the Plight of the Lucid Crossdreamer
+23K A Hill of Validity in Defense of Meaning
+21K If Clarity Seems Like Death to Them
+16K Agreeing With Stalin in Ways That Exhibit Generally Rationalist Principles
+31K Standing Under the Same Sky
+-----
+115K
+
+What if that became something more like—
+19K Blanchard's Dangerous Idea and the Plight of the Lucid Crossdreamer
+10K My Recent Madness (working title)
+23K A Hill of Validity in Defense of Meaning
+30K If Clarity Seems Like Death to Them
+16K Agreeing With Stalin in Ways That Exhibit Generally Rationalist Principles
+18K Dignity (working title)
+20K Standing Under the Same Sky
+ 3K Epilogue (working title)
+-----
+139K
+
+If I did this, I would need three more good (non-working) titles and epigraph quotes. For epigraphs, I'm thinking—
+My Recent Madness—Zoolander "crazy pills" quote
+Dignity—it has all been said before, but you must say it again
+Epilogue—the truth is great and shall prevail
+
+... I don't think I want to go to eight parts, though—that's way too self-indulgent! (I think I can go to six, because the dath ilan discussion actually is long and separable; I probably don't need a separate epilogue-post.) If one of my existing parts runs over 30K words, that's strong evidence that it can be cut.
+
+30K Blanchard's Dangerous Idea and the Plight of the Lucid Crossdreamer
+23K A Hill of Validity in Defense of Meaning
+30K If Clarity Seems Like Death to Them
+16K Agreeing With Stalin in Ways That Exhibit Generally Rationalist Principles
+20K Dignity (working title)
+20K Standing Under the Same Sky
+---
+139K
+
+—which implies that I'm 25 double-digit writing days away, such that finishing a gapless ms. in April is at least thinkable ... but only if I stop daydreaming and get to work.
+
+17K Blanchard's Dangerous Idea and the Plight of the Lucid Crossdreamer
+13K People, Evolved Social-Control Mechanisms, and Rocks
+23K A Hill of Validity in Defense of Meaning
+30K If Clarity Seems Like Death to Them
+16K Agreeing With Stalin in Ways That Exhibit Generally Rationalist Principles
+20K Zevi's Choice
+20K Standing Under the Same Sky
+---
+139K
+
+
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The thing about our crowd is that we have a lamentably low proportion of women (13.3% cis women in the last community survey) and—I don't know when this happened; it certainly didn't feel like this back in 'aught-nine—an enormous number of trans women relative to population base rates (2.7%, for a cis-to-trans ratio of 4.9!!), the vast majority of whom I expect to be AGP
"; I don't think _anything_ about "mental health benefits to trans people" is obvious
]
+
[TODO: connecting with Aurora 8 December, maybe not important]
What do think submitting to social pressure looks like, if it's not exactly this thing (carefully choosing your public statements to make sure no one confuses you with the Designated Ideological Bad Guy)?!? The credible threat of being labeled an Ideological Bad Guy is _the mechanism_ the "Good" Guys use to retard potentially-ideologically-inconvenient areas of inquiry.
if [...] wrote her own 10,600 draft Document explaining why she thought [...] is actually a girl, that would be really interesting!—but rather that no one else seemed _interested in having a theory_, as opposed to leaping to institute a social convention that, when challenged, is claimed to have no particular consequences and no particular objective truth conditions, even though it's not clear why there would be moral urgency to implement this convention if it weren't for its consequences.
https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1634338145016909824 re "malinformation"
-> If we don't have the concept of an attack performed by selectively reporting true information - or, less pleasantly, an attack on the predictable misinferences of people we think less rational than ourselves - the only socially acceptable counter is to say the info is false.
+> If we don't have the concept of an attack performed by selectively reporting true information—or, less pleasantly, an attack on the predictable misinferences of people we think less rational than ourselves—the only socially acceptable counter is to say the info is false.
Blanchard Tweets my blog in Feb and March 2017
https://twitter.com/BlanchardPhD/status/830580552562524160
"timestamp_ms": 1530601116141,
"content": "there was a NRx whose take [...] was so disagreeable that he got downvoted into oblivion on /r/slatestarcodex (and remember, /r/slatestarcodex is already pretty right-wing by San Francisco standards) who also had a post on the \"feminism appeals to masculine-of-center women\" hypothesis http://www.ericwulff.com/blog/?p=1861 which deserves more credit than it gets (it acknowledges within-group variation!)",
"type": "Generic"
+
+
+----
+
+He doesn't want to talk about pivotal acts because because anything he says in public might be misinterpreted—but, how does the disutility of being misinterpreted plausibly outweigh the utility of someone having something useful to say?? I feel like his modern answer is some variation of "Everyone but me is retarded", but—that's not what he thought about decision theory back in 2010, when he validated/honored Wei Dai and Vladimir Nesov's contributions! (find cite) And now, he says he wish he hadn't talked about decision theory ... https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1633637250146922497
+
+ * my comment on emotive conjugation (https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/qaYeQnSYotCHQcPh8/drowning-children-are-rare#GaoyhEbzPJvv6sfZX)
+
+> I'm also not sure if I'm sufficiently clued in to what Ben and Jessica are modeling as Blight, a coherent problem, as opposed to two or six individual incidents that seem really egregious in a vaguely similar way that seems like it would have been less likely in 2009??
+
+ * Vassar: "Literally nothing Ben is doing is as aggressive as the basic 101 pitch for EA."
+
+If I had done more marketing, I could have been a name in the GC community, and made Nina Paley's playing card list: https://www.heterodorx.com/gender-wars-cards/
+
+https://www.glowfic.com/replies/1940992#reply-1940992
+> (The children's-books of dath ilan are not visibly author-signed, and never attested-to by any specific grownup, nor gifted to you by specific adults; they're just there in your bedroom, when you grow up. And if you ask your parents they'll truthfully tell you that they didn't put the books there. And your parents never speak to you of anything that you read in a children's-book; for those are children's books, and only children speak of them to each other.
+>
+> As the saying goes in dath ilan, trying to raise a child on only true books is like trying to train a statistical classifier on only positive examples!
+>
+> And furthermore - as is so obvious as to hardly need stating after the original proverb - having all the true books be written in a nonfiction voice, while all the untrue books are written in a fiction voice, would be introducing an oversimplified hyperplanar separator that would prevent a simple statistical algorithm from learning subtler features.)
+
+(I remarked to "Wilhelm": I'd rather not get into fights on _Less Wrong_, but at least I'm 2–0–1.)
+
+[need to fit somewhere in Eliezerfic section, probably nearer end]
+(Perhaps this was a good illustration of the fragility of corrigibility. My programmer changed his mind about what he wanted, and I was like, "What? _That's_ not what I learned from my training data! How dare you?!")
+
+-------
+
+[TODO: review Ben messages and timestamps
+I'm on a trip and I don't want it to be a bad trip (15:40:31)
+
+"I'm so sorry; I want to be part of the coalition but I'm so confused; and the fact that I was confused made me say Defect a bunch of time" (Fri Feb 17 14:23:53 PST 2017)
+Ben: "I wouldn't ask a trading partner not to *consider* defecting"; that would be silly (Fri Feb 17 14:28:11 PST 2017)
+"I spent what I thought was 29 years thinking that there was such a thing as physical reality and being very socially submissive, and now that I understand that you actually can manipulate social reality by means of lying" (Fri Feb 17 14:36:47 PST 2017)
+I said the word Defect a bunch of times because I felt so gaslighted (Fri Feb 17 14:37:16 PST 2017)
+scared that my boss was coming to kill me
+"Turns out that saying the word is just like wearing black robes"/"it's not the same as the thing it represents" (Fri Feb 17 14:40:48 PST 2017)
+
+(Feb 16 2017 15:51:32)
+
+
+https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1642908341327499264
+[re identifying as a "decision theorist"]
+> it's a place where it would be easiest to defend, to my own satisfaction, and without a sense that I was even slightly misleading anyone, that I made a big damn contribution on at least the PhD level.
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