first edit pass bookmark: "I got a chance to talk to"
-pt. 3 edit tier—
-✓ footnote on the bad-faith condition on "My Price for Joining"
-✓ footnote explaining quibbles on clarification
-✓ quote Yudkowsky's LW moderation policy
-✓ hint at "Yes Requires" objector being trans
-✓ quote Jack on timelines anxiety
-✓ clarify "A Lesson is Learned"
-- nuance and FTX epilogue
+time-sensitive globals TODOs—
+✓ address red team objections to pt. 3
+- apply pro edits to pt. 3
+- address auto edit tier to pt. 3
+_ schedule Friendship Day at Valinor
+_ consult Anna
+_ clear with Steven
+_ Jessica's dramapost § in pt. 5
+_ consult 93 about Jessica's dramapost §
+_ finish and ship "Reply to Scott on Autogenderphilia"
+_ finish and ship "Hrunkner Unnerby"
+_ psychiatric disaster private doc
+_ clear with Michael/Ben/Jessica
+_ clear with Alicorn
+_ clear with Kelsey
+_ clear with Ray
+_ clear with Ruby
+_ SHIP PT. 3!!
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+_ address auto edit tier to pt. 4–5
+_ red team pt. 4–5
+_ pro edit pt. 4–5
+_ consult lc
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+pt. 3 edit tier (auto edition)—
+✓ FTX aside footnote version
+✓ revert alphabet names (from 17638259f20)
+✓ narcissistic delusions
+✓ clarify that cheerful price history is with Anna specifically
+_ screenshot "pleading, snarky reply"
+_ GreaterWrong over Less Wrong for comment links
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+_ breakup song
+_ briefly speculate on causes of brain damage (tie in to moderation policy?)
_ being friends with dogs (it's good, but do I have the wordcount budget?)
-_ briefly speculate on causes of brain damage
_ Ruby fight: "forces of blandness want me gone ... stand my ground" remark
_ mention that I was miffed about "Boundaries?" not getting Curated, while one of Euk's animal posts did
_ explicitly mention http://benjaminrosshoffman.com/bad-faith-behavior-not-feeling/
_ better context on "scam" &c. earlier (editor might catch?)
_ cut words from descriptions of other posts! (editor might catch?)
_ try to clarify Abram's categories view (Michael didn't get it) (but it still seems clear to me on re-read?)
-_ screenshot "pleading, snarky reply"
-_ GreaterWrong over Less Wrong for comment links
pt. 4 edit tier—
✓ "Ideology Is Not the Movement" mentions not misgendering
✓ mention Nick Bostrom email scandal (and his not appearing on the one-sentence CAIS statement)
+✓ explain why he could think of some relevant differences
_ body odors comment
-_ if he wanted to, I'm sure Eliezer Yudkowsky could think of some relevant differences (I should explain)
_ emphasize that 2018 thread was policing TERF-like pronoun usage, not just disapproving of gender-based pronouns
_ if you only say good things about Republican candidates
_ to-be-continued ending about how being a fraud might be a good idea
_ Anna on Paul Graham
_ Yudkowsky thinking reasoning wasn't useful
_ Jessica brought up race & IQ (she skimmed the previous draft, so I should highlight this)
-_ FTX and nuance epilogue (new)
+_ Ben publish "Discursive Warfare and Faction Formation" doc?
+_ quick note about FTX
_ Michael's SLAPP against REACH (new)
_ Michael on creepy and crazy men (new)
_ elided Sasha disaster (new)
In October 2016,
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if [...] wrote her own 10,600 draft Document explaining why she thought [...] is actually a girl, that would be really interesting!—but rather that no one else seemed _interested in having a theory_, as opposed to leaping to institute a social convention that, when challenged, is claimed to have no particular consequences and no particular objective truth conditions, even though it's not clear why there would be moral urgency to implement this convention if it weren't for its consequences.
-https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1634338145016909824 re "malinformation"
-> If we don't have the concept of an attack performed by selectively reporting true information—or, less pleasantly, an attack on the predictable misinferences of people we think less rational than ourselves—the only socially acceptable counter is to say the info is false.
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I said that I couldn't help but be reminded of a really great short story that I remembered reading back in—it must have been 'aught-nine. I thought it was called "Darkness and Light", or something like that. It was about a guy who gets transported to a fantasy world where he has a magic axe that yells at him sometimes, and he's prophecied to defeat the bad guy, and he and his allies have to defeat these ogres to reach the bad guy's lair. And when they get there, the bad guy _accuses them of murder_ for killing the ogres on the way there.
(The story was actually Yudkowsky's ["The Sword of Good"](https://www.yudkowsky.net/other/fiction/the-sword-of-good), but I was still enjoying the "Robin Hanson's blog" æsthetic.)
Everyone believed this in 2005! Everyone _still_ believes this!
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> Dear Totally Excellent Rationalist Friends:
> As a transhumanist and someone with a long, long history of fantasizing about having the property, I am of course strongly in favor of there being social norms and institutions that are carefully designed to help people achieve their lifelong dream of acquiring the property, or rather, the best approximation thereof that is achievable given the marked limitations of existing technology.
> However, it's also kind of important to notice that fantasizing about having the property without having yet sought out interventions to acquire the property, is not the same thing as somehow already literally having the property in some unspecified metaphysical sense! The process of attempting to acquire the property does not propagate backwards in time!
Weird tribalist praise for Scott: https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/GMCs73dCPTL8dWYGq/use-normal-predictions/comment/ez8xrquaXmmvbsYPi
-https://hpmor.com/chapter/97
-> "Or tricks," Harry said evenly. "Statements which are technically true but which deceive the listener into forming further beliefs which are false. I think it's worth making that distinction.
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I like to imagine that they have a saying out of dath ilan: once is happenstance; twice is coincidence; _three times is hostile optimization_.
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Michael said that we didn't want to police Eliezer's behavior, but just note that something had seemingly changed and move on. "There are a lot of people who can be usefully informed about the change," Michael said. "Not him though."
That was the part I couldn't understand, the part I couldn't accept.
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