[TODO: NRx the nice parts, Brazil vs. South Africa]
-[TODO: comics and 72 virgins]
+[TODO: comics and 72 virgins: https://tapas.io/episode/308349]
"If people with fragile identities weren't useful as a proxy weapon for certain political coalitions, then they would have no incentive to try to play language police and twist people's arms into accepting their identities," he said.
At this point, I was a bit suspicious that _any_ answer that wasn't exactly whatever he was thinking of would be dismissed as too social or too inferentially close to something one of the characters had said. What did it mean for the _universe_ to say something about valorizing truth?
-The original prompt ("What are some of the ways _Planecrash_ valorizes truth") had put me into 11th-grade English class mode; the revision "if I ask you, not what any _character_ says [...]" made me think the 11th-grade English teacher expected a different answer. The revised–revised prompt "what does the underlying reality of _Planecrash_ think about your Most Important Issues?", with the previous rebukes in my context window, made me think I should be reaching for an act of philosophical Original Seeing, rather than trying to be a diligent schoolstudent playing the 11th-grade English class game. I pondered the matter ... and I _thought of something_.
+The original prompt ("What are some of the ways _Planecrash_ valorizes truth") had put me into 11th-grade English class mode; the revision "if I ask you, not what any _character_ says [...]" made me think the 11th-grade English teacher expected a different answer. The revised–revised prompt "what does the underlying reality of _Planecrash_ think about your Most Important Issues?", with the previous rebukes in my context window, made me think I should be reaching for an act of philosophical [Original Seeing](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/SA79JMXKWke32A3hG/original-seeing), rather than trying to be a diligent schoolstudent playing the 11th-grade English class game. I pondered the matter ... and I _thought of something_.
_Thesis_: the universe of _Planecrash_ is saying that virtue ethics—including, as a special case, my virtue ethics about it being good to tell the truth and reveal information—are somewhat unnatural.
It seems like my answer to the question of, "What does the underlying causal process of _Planecrash_ think about your Most Important Issues; what are some the ways that _Planecrash_ valorizes truth-telling as you, yourself, see that virtue?" is, "It doesn't" (!). Truth-telling is a virtue ethic, and _Planecrash_ depicts a universe ruled by consequentialist gods who only implement virtue ethics insofar as that made it into their utilityfunction.
-I realized, of course, that this certainly wasn't the answer Yudkowsky was looking for. But it seemed like a _better_ answer than me trying to play the schoolstudent. He asked what I saw when I looked at what the fictional universe was saying about _my_ problems, and I looked, and _I saw something_. (Something philosophically substantive, not just a social reality.) It seemed more honest to just report that, rather than try to guess the teacher's password. So, after sleeping on it first, I posted the explanation of what I saw to the channel (including the parts about how the original prompts steered me, and that I realized that this wasn't the answer he was looking for).
+I realized, of course, that this certainly wasn't the answer Yudkowsky was looking for. But it seemed like a _better_ answer than me trying to play the schoolstudent. He asked what I saw when I looked at what the fictional universe was saying about _my_ problems, and I looked, and _I saw something_. (Something philosophically substantive, not just a social reality.) It seemed more honest to just report that, rather than try to [guess the teacher's password](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/NMoLJuDJEms7Ku9XS/guessing-the-teacher-s-password). So, after sleeping on it first, I posted the explanation of what I saw to the channel (including the parts about how the original prompts steered me, and that I realized that this wasn't the answer he was looking for).
[TODO:
* third bluebook didn't get a response
https://twitter.com/RichardHakania/status/1628384239224750086
> one of the best things I've read about the sexed-brain claims of trans ideology
+
+"Blame Me for Trying" retweeted by Riley Goodside
+https://twitter.com/goodside/status/1642435862410457089
> How do these scars begin to mend?_
>
> —_Centaurworld_
+
+
+> Because life is a gradual series of revelations
+> that occur over a period of time
+> It's not some carefully crafted story
+> It's a mess and we're all gonna die
+>
+> If you saw a movie that was like real life
+> You'd be like "What the hell was that movie about?"
+> It was really all over the place.
+> Life doesn't make narrative sense.
+>
+> —"The End of the Movie", _Crazy Ex Girlfriend_
_ Eliezerfic fight: derail with lintamande [pt. 6]
_ Eliezerfic fight: knives, and showing myself out [pt. 6]
+_ Vassar 2016
- NRx education with "Wilhelm" [pt. 2]
_ "model clicked"/Feb. discussion with "Wilhelm" [pt. 2]
it was actually "wander onto the AGI mailing list wanting to build a really big semantic net" (https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/9HGR5qatMGoz4GhKj/above-average-ai-scientists)
With internet available—
-_ 72 virgins-like comic
-_ what 93 said about my third bluebook
-_ Guessing the Teacher's Password
-_ Original Seeing
-_ is the Glowfic author "Lintamande ... they" or "Lintamande ... she"?
+_ Susan Fenimore Cooper
_ Hidden Figures
-_ do I have the definition of "paramour" right?
_ truth and reconciliation
_ where did the super-AIDS example fit in the Eliezerfic fight cronologically?
-_ https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/7vofFovKWPrnM7y9Q/appeal-to-consequence-value-tensions-and-robust/comment/z9p9sZNDBHnwqMCmh
_ IQ 143 cite
_ double-check "the mood I thought dath ilan was missing" link target
_ double-check "the power that could not be removed" quote
-_ "give special consent to access "Ill Advised" products"—link to OB banned goods post
_ click through to the case study in "Self-Consciousness"
_ click-to-reveal spoiler block image
_ more Discord italics-correction
_ Yudkowsky's LW moderation policy
far editing tier—
+_ is the Glowfic author "Lintamande ... they" or "Lintamande ... she"?
_ explain plot of _Planecrash_ better
_ CfAR's AI pivot??
_ example of "steelman before criticize" norm