+Robby's comment: https://www.facebook.com/robbensinger/posts/10158073223040447?comment_id=10158073685825447&reply_comment_id=10158074093570447&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R2%22%7D
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https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154807871200199 (some of you may have noticed)
https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154808888680199 (Dear Totally Excellent Rationalist Friends)
https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154810042700199 (model clicked, causality goes the other way)
-https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154811044280199
-https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154811974995199
+https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154811044280199 (PC is just respect)
+https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154811974995199 (if you make yourself really small ...)
https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154812225235199 (Daphne Koller and the Methods)
https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154812243735199
https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154812307555199 (priors are BAD)
+need to work in—
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+* my quip about men who love what we _wish_ women were
+* address the "Puerto Rican women don't have exactly the same distribution as women as a whole" argument
+* link "Blegg Mode" somewhere
+* restrooms as safe spaces quote (if I can get permission)
+* link Ozy on "We don't have a sex gap"
+* call out the mendacity of "assigned at birth"
+* link track post
+* this a question of what social norms we want to negotiate
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+As a rationalist, I want to protect people's freedom to describe the world as it
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+I don't _know_ what the optimal set of social norms around transitioning should be.
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+the _idiot sophistry_ of, "Women are people who identify as women _by definition_ and definitions can't be wrong; look, Scott Alexander said so."
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+We're _smarter_ than this.
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+[Emperor Norton]
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+and no one is allowed to talk about the social problems because we're not supposed to use the phrase "actual women" to avoid hurting anyone's feelings ... this is CRAZY! I don't know what the right solution is! But the status quo is CRAZY. We're smarter than this!
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+This is a question about what sort of social norms we want to establish, and different choices of social norms have different costs and benefits! In a world where trans isn't a thing, the standard is, "Pass as a natal woman, or be regarded as a man pretending to be a woman." This isn't good for autogynephilic transsexuals! Later, the standard became, "If if looks like you're sincerely trying to pass as a natal woman, we'll model you that way, even if you don't quite pass." This is a better deal for autogynephilic transsexuals!
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While a minority of trans women in Western countries fit the "classical transsexual" profile of being attracted to men, displaying lifelong female-typical social behavior and interests, and transitioning early. But the majority don't fit this pattern.
(To interested readers who only have time to read one paper, I recommend Anne Lawrence's ["Autogynephilia and the Typology of Male-to-Female Transsexualism: Concepts and Controversies"](http://unremediatedgender.space/papers/lawrence-agp_and_typology.pdf) For a more exhaustive treatment, see Lawrence's book [_Men Trapped in Men's Bodies_](https://surveyanon.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/men-trapped-in-mens-bodies_book.pdf) or follow the links and citations in [Kay Brown's FAQ](https://sillyolme.wordpress.com/faq-on-the-science/).)
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/02/when-i-was-raped-it-was-female-only-spaces-helped-me-recover
caveats to the "male pattern of criminality" study: https://medium.com/@notCursedE/do-trans-women-retain-male-pattern-violence-df67954373fd
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+/2018/Feb/blegg-mode/
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+Another (cis) female friend of the blog writes:
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+> I think of women's restrooms as safe havens. If a suspicious looking man is following me on the street, or I am concerned about someone male being a danger to me because they are loud and shouty and sexist or catcalling, I will sometimes make a beeline for the nearest women's restroom because I know that is a safe haven. Other people might not intervene if someone is just suspiciously following me, but there is a strong taboo against men in women's restrooms and I feel confident that the men will either not follow me in there due to that taboo or other women will intervene if they do. It's also got useful plausible deniability; I, and potential bystanders, may not be willing to say "you are a possible instigator of violence and we feel unsafe" because that's rude, but we can say "you're not allowed in here, this is a woman's bathroom" because coming into the wrong bathroom is ruder. If that safe haven did not exist because there was no taboo against people who look male in female restrooms, I would be extremely distressed about the non-possibility of retreating somewhere safe, and be much less comfortable entering clubs or pubs or other public party/drink-themed spaces. It would likely cause me to not go to some of them.
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