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- * Yudkowsky commented that everyone has an evil bullies problem, we also had a Kolmogorov problem, but that's a separate thing even if bullies use Kolmogorov as an attack vector
- * reality is complicated: I put some weight on the evil bullies model, but I think it's important to notice that we're participating in a political cover-up
- * really, Topher and I are trying to do the same thing (reveal that rationalist leaders are thoughtcriminals), for different reasons (Topher thinks thoughtcrime is bad, and I think thoughtcrime it's fraud to claim the banner of "rationality" while hiding your thoughtcrimes); I'm being more scrupulous about accomplishing my objective while respecting other people's privacy hang-ups (and I think I have more latitude to do so _because_ I'm pro-thoughtcrime; people can tell that I'm saying this selfishly rather than spitefully), but don't think I don't sympathize with Topher; there are non-evil-bully reasons to want to _reveal information_ rather than participate in a conspiracy to protect the "rationalists" as non-threatening to the egregore
- * It's one thing to believe in keeping promsies that someone explicitly made, but instructing commenters not to link to the email, implies not just that Topher should keep his promises, but that _everyone else_ is bound to participate in a conspiracy to respect Scott's privacy
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+Yudkowsky [commented that](https://www.facebook.com/yudkowsky/posts/pfbid02ZoAPjap94KgiDg4CNi1GhhhZeQs3TeTc312SMvoCrNep4smg41S3G874saF2ZRSQl?comment_id=10159410429909228&reply_comment_id=10159410753284228) everyone (including, for example, organizers of science fiction conventions) had a problem of figuring out how to exclude evil bullies. We also had an inevitable Kolmogorov complicity problem, but that shouldn't be confused with the evil bullies issue, even if bullies attack via Kolmogorov issues.
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+To this, I'll agree that the problems shouldn't be confused. Psychology is complicated, and people have more than one reason for doing things: I can easily believe that Brennan was largely driven by bully-like motives even if he told himself a story about being a valiant whistleblower defending Cade Metz's honor against Scott's deception.
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+But I think it's also important to _notice both problems_, instead of pretending that the only problem was Brennan's disregard for Alexander's privacy on account of Brennan being an evil bully.
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+It's one thing to believe that people should keep promises that they, themselves, explicitly made. But instructing commenters not to link to the email seems to imply not just that Brennan should keep _his_ promises, but that _everyone else_ is obligated to participate in a conspiracy to conceal information that Alexander would prefer concealed. I can see an ethical case for it, analogous to returning stolen property after it's already been sold, and expecting buyers not to buy items that they know have been stolen. (If Brennan had obeyed Alexander's confidentiality demand, we wouldn't have an email to link to, so if we wish Brennan had obeyed, we can just _act as if_ we don't have an email to link to.) But also I think expecting people to _pretend not to know things_ is a _big ask_, not something you can casually demand.