with internet available—
+_ "What the Tortise Said" link
+_ 13th century word meanings
_ the comment from old-OB where someone brought up the Dolphin objection and Yudkowsky linked "Mutual Information" in reply
_ the other Twitter conversation incl. Tail where Yudkowsky says he's not taking a stand
-_ the exchange on old OB where I said
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+_ the exchange on old OB where I said to acknowledge that not all men _want_ to be masculine
_ screenshot Rob's Facebook comment which I link
_ compile Categories references from the Dolphin War
+_ dates of subsequent philosophy-of-language posts
far editing tier—
+_ clarify why Michael thought Scott was "gaslighting" me, include "beeseech bowels of Christ"
_ address the "maybe it's good to be called names" point from "Hill" thread
_ 2019 Discord discourse with Alicorner
_ edit discussion of "anti-trans" side given that I later emphasize that "sides" shouldn't be a thing
-_ clarify why Michael thought Scott was "gaslighting" me, include "beeseech bowels of Christ"
_ the right way to explain how I'm respecting Yudkowsky's privacy
_ explain the adversarial pressure on privacy norms
_ first EY contact was asking for public clarification or "I am being silenced" (so Glomarizing over "unsatisfying response" or no response isn't leaking anything Yudkowksy cares about)
_ mention the fact that Anna had always taken a "What You Can't Say" strategy
_ when to use first _vs. last names
_ explain why I'm not being charitable in 2018 thread analysis, that at the time, I thought it had to be a mistake
+_ January 2019 meeting with Ziz and Gwen
+_ better summary of Littman
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people to consult before publishing, for feedback or right of objection—
_ Scott
_ Anna
_ secret posse member
+_ Alicorn: about privacy, and for Melkor Glowfic reference link
_ someone from Alicorner #drama as a hostile prereader (Swimmer?)
_ maybe Kelsey (very briefly, just about her name)?
_ maybe SK (briefly about his name)?
https://twitter.com/ESYudkowsky/status/1436025983522381827
> Well, Zack hopefully shouldn't see this, but I do happen to endorse everything you just said, for your own personal information.
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+[SECTION about monastaries (with Ben and Anna in April 2019)
+I complained to Anna: "Getting the right answer in public on topic _X_ would be too expensive, so we won't do it" is _less damaging_ when the set of such <em>X</em>es is _small_. It looked to me like we added a new forbidden topic in the last ten years, without rolling back any of the old ones.
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+"Reasoning in public is too expensive; reasoning in private is good enough" is _less damaging_ when there's some sort of _recruiting pipeline_ from the public into the monasteries: lure young smart people in with entertaining writing and shiny math, _then_ gradually undo their political brainwashing once they've already joined your cult. (It had [worked on me](/2021/May/sexual-dimorphism-in-the-sequences-in-relation-to-my-gender-problems/)!)
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+I would be sympathetic to "rationalist" leaders like Anna or Yudkowsky playing that strategy if there were some sort of indication that they had _thought_, at all, about the pipeline problem—or even an indication that there _was_ an intact monastery somewhere.
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