+I don't think we're in equilibrium; I don't think everyone knows what's going on
+
+
fragments—
O Wad Some Power the Giftie Gie Us; Or, the Identity Dysphoria Trap (school dysphoria)
same-sex couples do less assortative mating! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2843104/
+
On Mar 4, 2017 3:23 PM, "Zack M. Davis" <main@zackmdavis.net> wrote:
Genocide is murder of a class of people. Can you be more specific about the class of people you see being murdered (nerdy men?) and what you think is murdering them (the political-correctness memeplex that evolved as a social-control mechanism to prevent the United States from becoming Yugoslavia)?
Lindsay Shepherd/James Damore shipfic
+https://medium.com/@aytchellis/is-it-possible-to-change-sex-8d863ce7fca2
+
Brazillian woman moves to Sweeden and cherished egalitarian culture: https://medium.com/@sayhellotovanessa/the-oddities-of-being-an-invisible-woman-8570394caa0d
most of men's attractiveness is cues of upper-body strength: http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/284/1869/20171819
Blanchard on the record about "homosexual" terminology: https://twitter.com/BlanchardPhD/status/999680624817508352
+
+https://twitter.com/RachelRMoran/status/1060311474780946432
+
http://abc30.com/homeless-women-harassed-in-shower-lawsuit-says/3514544/
https://medium.com/@maybekatz/on-the-design-of-womens-spaces-72bf8f396dc0
https://mashable.com/2018/06/23/charlotte-clymer-twitter-thread-cuba-libre/#HzX3Kmpl3PqB
https://www.metroweekly.com/2018/06/transgender-woman-says-she-was-kicked-out-of-popular-d-c-restaurant-for-using-womens-restroom/
https://twitter.com/ChelseaClinton/status/1010596357093117953
+https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1060699882506383360
"It’s officially impossible to find regular real lesbians unless you happen to stumble upon them in the wild ..."
https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/8mahdy/peak_trans_vii_tell_your_story_here/e1jtuqz/
Moldbug's deep rhetorical game: https://theotherlifenow.com/bear-traps/
+when social-justice people say that language is "outdated", do they have an idea of what changed? There may be an uncomfortable analogy here to programmers who want to insist on the latest version of everything even when the old stuff still works!
+
+https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/evkwm4/how-to-be-an-ally-to-non-binary-gender-non-conforming-people-support
+
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inoculation_theory
+
+----
+
+Extracted from one of my SEXNET posts—
+
+Unrelatedly, Beck et al. note in passing a fascinating finding that I think deserves more examination:
+
+> Gender portrayal seems to vary based on target audience. In genres and channels targeting boys, girls are more likely to be depicted as smarter, less emotional, and more technically savvy (Baker & Raney, 2007; Gerding and & Signorielli, 2014; Thompson & Zerbinos, 1995). Conversely, genres and channels targeting girl viewers depict boys as more emotional and affectionate than do boy-oriented media (Aubrey & Harrison, 2004; Hentges & Case, 2013).
+
+The authors go on to state that "[i]n sum, children's media reinforce gender role binaries and suggest that our culture values strictly delineated gender roles." But left unexplained is why a culture that values strictly delineated gender roles would optimize for portraying girls with masculine-coded virtues in boys' media and boys with feminine-coded virtues in girls' media. (An alternative theory that does predict this particular datum is that media producers are incentivized to cater to children's egocentric fantasies of the other sex's psychology being more like their own ...)
+
+
+-----
+
+Extracted from reply to Ozy on categories—
+
+> Conversely, as far as I can tell, there has yet to be a single transgender NFL football player, while statistically there ought to be five currently playing.
+
+A side note, but—this doesn't actually seem hard to explain. If the ought-to-be-five means MtFs, well, you _can't_ transition MtF and _stay_ in the NFL—HRT is going to kill your performance. Even if you think the effect size of hormones is overhyped, this is a _very_ competitive area, you can't say, "Oh, it only affected performance like ten percent, that's nothing—ten percent is _huge_." This doesn't rule out Jenner-class eggs in the NFL.
+
+And if it means FtMs, well, people get into football as teenagers: there are going to be structural reasons making that difficult even if gynephilic FtMs _are_ the sort of people who would like to play (difficulty of transitioning _that_ early _and_ being stealthy about it, and difficulty of being accepted as one of the guys if you're not stealthy—let alone NFL/NCAA policy about steroid use, if the matter has even come up, which is probably hasn't)
+
+The tone of the video news report here makes me nervous (_deception_ is a crime, but the fetish itself shouldn't disqualify him from being a _crossing guard_) https://www.abc15.com/news/crime/pd-gilbert-man-fakes-down-syndrome-hires-caregivers-to-bathe-him-and-change-diapers
+
+This is basically the _Quillette_ article that I wanted to write: https://quillette.com/2018/09/12/stereotypes-are-often-harmful-and-accurate/
+
+https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ijop.12529
+
+https://lesbian-rights-nz.org/shame-receipts/
+
+Has someone done the game-theoretic microfoundations of radical feminism?
+
+another ROGD referral graph: https://twitter.com/LavenderVerse/status/1042573498592501763
+
+https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/unisex-changing-rooms-put-women-in-danger-8lwbp8kgk
+
+CoC thread (I donated $10 to the author for this): https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1041668315947708416.html
+https://mobile.twitter.com/unconed/status/1045325718056554498
+
+https://metro.co.uk/2018/09/19/transgender-teen-to-admit-murdering-parents-who-refused-to-accept-her-transition-7960036/
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/8mahdy/peak_trans_vii_tell_your_story_here/e69oh83/
+
+dystopia where all women call themselves nonbinary and men call themselves trans women
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/9ejzkm/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_of_september_10/e64jjos/?context=3&sort=best
+
+https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Transgender-woman-in-San-Antonio-files-13244056.php?utm_campaign=twitter-mobile&utm_source=CMS%20Sharing%20Button&utm_medium=social "male or female gender should be self-identified and self-reported for the purpose of blood donation"
+
+https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/09/how-i-was-hounded-off-campus-for-saying-women-dont-have-penises/
+
+https://www.econlib.org/you-dont-understand-our-culture/
+
+https://twitter.com/tvandreacross/status/1043603304763351041 made me wonder why I haven't heard "Make it easier to get a GRC, but revoke it as part of the penalty for crimes, especially sex crimes" proposed as a compromise
+
+WTF _Nature_ redux https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-06784-5?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nature%2Frss%2Fcurrent+%28Nature+-+Issue%29
+
+https://law.justia.com/cases/california/court-of-appeal/2017/b263563.html
+
+https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesCantorPhD/status/1012722559874486272
+
+Damore is working again https://twitter.com/JamesADamore/status/1034623633174478849
+
+HSTS doesn't like being asked pronouns https://twitter.com/Kinesis/status/1046485034113220608
+
+Numbers 31:15–18
+
+וַיֹּאמֶר אֲלֵיהֶם מֹשֶׁה הַֽחִיִּיתֶם כָּל־נְקֵבָֽה׃
+
+"Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them.
+
+
+ וְעַתָּה הִרְגוּ כָל־זָכָר בַּטָּף וְכָל־אִשָּׁה יֹדַעַת אִישׁ לְמִשְׁכַּב זָכָר הֲרֹֽגוּ
+
+Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,
+
+
+ וְכֹל הַטַּף בַּנָּשִׁים אֲשֶׁר לֹא־יָדְעוּ מִשְׁכַּב זָכָר הַחֲיוּ לָכֶֽם
+
+but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
+
+
+What actual women are like vs. feminist power fantasy: https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/8tpcyn/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_of_june_25_2018/e1f67ky/
+https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2013/08/i-hate-strong-female-characters
+
+reading the famous Flight 93 essay and coming across a scare-quoted "cis-genderism", I want to say, "You mean _cisnormativity_"
+
+my insufficiently-requited love retweeted this: https://twitter.com/EscapologistFi/status/1052650770624118785
+
+http://www.jbhe.com/features/53_SAT.html
+
+Singal on pediatrics society statement: https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1052939041069588480 (follow-up for critique of Ozy on ROGD!!!)
+
+https://twitter.com/rachelvmckinnon/status/1053633641161678848
+
+Rachel McKinnon documents say she's a woman https://archive.is/PWmOP https://twitter.com/rachelvmckinnon/status/1053633641161678848
+Rachel McKinnon on her opponents making gender-identity https://archive.is/mmhwU
+
+https://doesnthavetobethisway.wordpress.com/2014/07/19/nametags-pronouns-and-lifting-the-burden/
+
+EUGENICS https://www.wired.com/story/pinterest-skin-tone-search/?fbclid=IwAR27gG2-MZOuYjRBxcZCGK2J4x9rEcrD6rM-8W8H37b5GS5UWJnZEqffUjI
+
+Request for social technology: again, we really need to do something about the problem where civil-and-charitable discourse culture tends to degenerate into "I accept a belief from you, if you accept a belief from me" social exchange, which rewards dogmatic incumbents. (Submissive people trying to be charitable think, "The incumbent didn't respond to my argument! Maybe I'm wrong!" when maybe they should be less submissive and instead think, "The incumbent is being willfully stupid! No update!") So, we know that personal character attacks are bad and need to be quashed. But maybe "arrogance and contempt towards worldviews which I claim have bugs in addition to their already well-known features" is OK? We know that argument NEVER gets bullet. We know that argument NEVER gets personal attack. But a lot of people seem to think that if argument doesn't get counterargument, that means that argument wins. And that's not right! Maybe sometimes argument deserves, "No update, no time to explain; I falsifiably predict that you'll thank me later." Sometimes this prediction will be wrong! But sometimes it will come true eight years later!
+
+("And he cried out, one last cry under the consciousness of Odeen, except that somehow it was the cry of Dua. 'No, we can't stop the market. We are the market. We—'")
+
+"Transsexualism is primarily a type of individual psychopathology. It secondarily acquires the properties of a political or religious movement when individual transsexuals form up into networks."— https://twitter.com/BlanchardPhD/status/1056219179399962631
+
+https://www.essence.com/news/16-year-old-black-teen-tells-dr-phil-shes-white-and-hates-black-people/
+
+https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/10/30/transgender-woman-gets-18-month-sentence-for-sexually-assaulting-daughter.html
+
+https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/trans-man-sauna/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
+
+https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-07238-8
+
+more Yearwood: https://abcnews.go.com/US/transgender-teens-outrun-track-field-competitors-critics-close/story?id=55856294
+https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2810857-andraya-yearwood-knows-she-has-the-right-to-compete
+
+
+https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6179341/Outrage-transgender-child-groomer-legally-female-womens-jail.html
+
+https://www.wweek.com/news/2018/11/07/a-transgender-powells-employee-says-the-bookstore-refused-to-designate-a-gender-neutral-restroom-in-its-corporate-office/
+
+HSTS typology-discovering narrative: https://twitter.com/Kinesis/status/1060452237967675392
+
+https://m.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/UC-Berkeley-campus-senator-abstains-from-a-vote-13378621.php?t=bd81bb94a4#photo-16472734
+
+https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/drunken-transgender-women-stamp-defenceless-13566104
+
+https://truethingsiwishicouldsay.tumblr.com/post/179846906643/this-is-the-new-queer-compulsory-heterosexuality
+
+https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/midwives-rail-against-proposal-to-call-women-persons-in-new-code-of-conduct/news-story/0c3b37b55934effcfc48498b64a1256f
+
+skeleton sex denialism: https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/575536/
+
+medical records: https://twitter.com/HairyLeggdHarpy/status/1062360988702466048
+
+https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7724502/cop-child-sex-offences-woman/amp/
+
+https://janeclarejones.com/2018/11/13/the-annals-of-the-terf-wars/
+
+http://academicrightswatch.com/?p=2871
+
+https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/canadian-man-claiming-to-be-female-sues-16-women-for-refusing-to-wax-his-ge
+
+Marcus points out that out the "balls-at-12" 5-alpha-reductase people
+
+intersex stats: https://twitter.com/mrkhtake2/status/1063454985147613187
+
+----
+
+unused /r/slatestarcodex comment fodder—
+
+More generally, I'm not sure what to do about the problem of how to _break out_ of the existing Culture War narratives, when you think the reigning narrative is wrong and that you have a better one. The immortal Robin Hanson writes that if you want to make an outsized difference in debates, you sould [pull in a direction that few others are in the high-dimensional policyspace](http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/05/policy_tugowar.html), but I worry that this model overlooks certain difficulties in _marketing_. If you don't want to join the "trans dykes are good and pure; maximize the number of trans people" coalition _or_ the "trans-identified males are bad men; minimize the number of trans people" coalition, the typical reaction is _not_ that people rally around your [third alternative](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/erGipespbbzdG5zYb/the-third-alternative) in the orthogonal direction, but rather: "Good God you're a fucking unicorn."
+
+Well, I _guess_. But then what's a unicorn to do? I feel _guilty_ about posting too many variants of the same "read [Anne Lawrence](http://www.annelawrence.com/autogynephilia_&_MtF_typology.html)!" comment whenever trans issues come up in the Culture War thread—it feels too repetitive, too agenda-driven. But _given_ an agenda (people should be aware of the true nature of late-onset gender dysphoria in males so that they can use the knowledge to make better decisions, even if I'm not wise enough to specify in advance what those decisions should be) and wanting to pursue that agenda in good-faith and with an absolute minimum of war,
+
+----
+
+Ideally, the Watsonian and Doylist views should be consilient (social-justice people have a Doylist view of Damore et al. as trying to justify male privilige; Scott Alexander et al. have a Doylist view of social-justice as being about victimhood competition)
+
+deep learning can sex your retina: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41551-018-0195-0
+
+http://www.womaninterruptedapp.com/en/
+
+https://twitter.com/plantkid_/status/1065016189980721152
+
+https://medium.com/the-establishment/dont-judge-a-girl-for-what-s-between-her-legs-24f6b6c8cc6
+
+how come I've never heard of this Hogancamp guy on Trans Day of Rememberance? oh, right, AGP erasure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marwencol
+
+read later: https://medium.com/@juliaserano/refusing-to-tolerate-intolerance-f24c1bff513f
+
+https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2012-11-15/online-paedophile-jailed-for-14-years/
+
+http://valleywag.gawker.com/twitter-engineer-dana-mccallum-pled-guilty-to-two-misde-1643207780
+
+https://www.philpercs.com/2016/02/autogynephilia-a-critique-and-personal-narrative.html
+
+https://medium.com/@Betsulimo/i-was-one-of-the-transactivists-on-the-channel-4-documentary-i-regret-what-i-did-this-is-why-7e12350ab6d3
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/itsafetish/
+
+https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2018/11/30/36431918/if-the-future-is-nonbinary-its-a-bleak-one-for-women
+
+"Obviously I socially gender him as male as per his preference."
+
+"I wouldn't call it a 'preference' exactly."
+
+"I gender him male as per his philosophical commitments"
+
+https://www.theverge.com/2014/4/28/5661118/lab-mice-fear-men-not-women-big-problem-for-science
+
+Mad Ouroboros on the Somewhere Else Discord speculates that "don't call me cis" gendercrits and AFAB enbies are having the same internal gender experience
+
+CAIS in sport: https://twitter.com/FondOfBeetles/status/1070097483408248835
+
+the evolutionarily ancient process of noticing secondary sex characteristics is less legitimate than "Because I said so"
+
+https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/zmynd9/stop-gendering-your-baby?utm_campaign=sharebutton
+
+https://twitter.com/terristrange/status/1068887491812290560
+
+http://www.publicseminar.org/2018/11/the-performance-of-transgender-inclusion/
+
+https://www.afterellen.com/general-news/568221-how-i-became-the-most-hated-lesbian-in-baltimore
+
+https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2018/06/sexism-racism-never-diminishes-even-everyone-becomes-less-sexist-racist.html
+
+https://trialeterror.home.blog/2018/11/25/alternatives-to-transition-a-step-by-step-guide-to-thinking-your-way-out-of-dysphoria-without-repressing-it/
+
+Kinesis on the vibe: https://twitter.com/Kinesis/status/1074361907060957184
+
+------
+
+New from me: ["Trying to Be Explicit"](), a short story that starts out being about the frustration of trying to be objective about a hot-button social issue and facing what one believes to be bad-faith criticism while simultanously acknowledging that _everyone_ thinks their critics are acting in bad faith, but then degenerates into specialized erotica interspersed with commentary on how the details of the erotic fantasy have important implications for the hot-button social issue.
+
+... I don't know, guys. I'm really sorry.
+
+-----
+
+I don't understand why it's so hard to _either_ get the _minimal_ flag out in public, _or_ shut up about all related topics. Obviously, I can't fault anyone for not wanting to put potentially-controversial content under their own name, because I use a pseudonym myself. (I also believe in genetic-ancestry-mediated intelligence differences, and I _don't write about it_.) The problem that I'm trying to rally against is that if _all_ the nice-famous-shiny "rationalists" repeat flawed philosophy in support of the "pro-trans" political coalition (I linked four specific examples in a previous email; it really seems to be the consensus position), and _none_ of them loudly, publicly correct themselves when confronted with better philosophy (because the better philosophy happens to be more easily construed to support the "anti-trans" political coalition), then _we have lost the Mandate of Heaven_.
+
+-----
+
+Duolingo gave me the sentence "Ihre Frau schreibt" ("Her wife/woman writes") and I was very confused for a few moments. ("Well, the mouseover tooltip hint gives 'Her wife' and 'Your wife' as phrase translations, so it has to be 'your wife'—but wait, 'ihre' is similar to 'ihr', which is the plural you-all, so ...")
+
+the MADTv sketch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgcLfohtFbE
+
+field report on TIMs in lesbian spaces: https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/9zgivf/peak_trans_viii_tell_your_story_here/ec8zecy/
+
+And like, I share all the same moral ideals (I was born in 1987 and grew up in California; I'm not some [bigoted redneck](http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/)).
+
+Yearwood again: https://www.theday.com/article/20170530/SPORT03/170539907
+
+looking through scrollback with "Wilhelm"—
+
+ "Politics Is the Mind; Loyalty to Existing Political Coalitions Is the Mind-Killer"
+
+genuine improvements and noise, and that we should be looking for clever strategies to roll back some of the noise while keeping the good parts
+
+"Wilhelm": "The preliminary results are not good, and they only look good inside a holiness bubble that is going to pop"
+
+I hate you guys so much
+I'm making a pointed and deliberate effort to hate you so that I can continue to learn from you without getting eaten by your egregore
+
+Roissy says that the sum of masculinity and femininity in a relationship must sum to zero, and I can see how putting all of the masculinity in the man and all of the femininity in the woman is kind of useful in that it lets you reap the benefits of comparative advantage
+but I don't want to be the guy, and like everyone else, I want my preferences to be high-status, which the status quo is sort of doing for me, albeit in a delusional self-destructive way that I hope is fixable
+
+"Restore patriarchy!" "Never! I mean, I see the point you're trying to make, but the real solution is embryo selection for more nerd girls!"
+
+I hear what you're saying, but, but, without bones of sympathy and approval from feminist women, where am I going to get my bones of approval and sympathy from feminist women?? It's like you're telling me to make fewer paperclips!
+
+
+"Power that is not aligned with natural law leads to evil, because it requires constantly denying reality and punishing dissenters."
+"OK, but I still want my own breasts"
+
+Scott got a lot of pushback just for including the blog that I showed him in a links post (Times have changed! BBL is locally quasi-mainstream after Ozy engaged)
+
+but I am starting to get a more detailed appreciation of how the thing-that-is-good-that-I-want-to-call-"individualism" has a lot of missing implementation details; "Everyone's self-reported self-identity must be uncritically respected" social norms are trying to maximize a certain kind of individual choice (you not only get to choose your gender, you can even write-in a new one!), but that choice is taking place in the context of a very specific delusional cultural environment that penalizes other kinds of individual choices (like criticizing the delusions)
+
+I'm sad that my update from "Blanchard is probably wrong because everyone's self-report says it's wrong" to "self-reports are pretty crazy" probably has implication for "Red Pill is probably wrong because everyone's self-report says it's wrong"
+
+when I asked the Licensed Clinical Social Worker how rare I was (wanting to try HRT while loudly denouncing trans ideology as retarded), he said he gets lots of nonbinary/"transfeminine", but had never met anyone who identified as AGP
+he wants to talk to the team and have another appt before endocrinologist referal
+
+we should ban identities until we can figure out what's going on
+
+that would require taking power, which is hard
+
+but it's a good thought experiment... if you were appointed Gender Czar, what would you do? This is a rhetorical question, but I think what any decent person with good judgment would do is very, very different from what's happening.
+
+also, it's really personally convenient for me that the delusional identity politics happen to be favorable to my life-defining paraphilia, so I kind of have incentives to play along a bit
+
+as long as you don't describe yourself fully accurately
+
+yeah, it's really annoying, because in addition to my obligately autogynephilic sexuality, I'm also an obligate ultra positivist nerd who doesn't like playing along with cultural narratives that "she" thinks are false
+you don't want me as Gender Czar, because I kind of like what's happening (to the extent that we can get away with it without being punished by Gnon), just not how people talk about it
+if I get to be Eugenics Czar at the same time, I might be able to make up for it?
+
+You being Gender Czar would be an improvement to what's happening now. I'm not comparing you to my ideal Gender Czar, the thought experiment is that you compare your own judgment to Gender Moloch.
+even if you didn't have any power over people, just the ability to give high status public statements would improve the rationality of the general area and shut down some of the holiness spirals occurring
+
+so while you're being successfully marginalized by the currently-reigning egregores, I'm happy to learn some sociology from you NRx guys, because I am an aspiring rationalist, and you have a lot of insights
+but if you start gaining power in spaces that I care about, I kind of have to fight you to the death
+for her
+
+W: 'Roles require that people support a consistent interface and contracts (in the programming sense). "Identities", "spectrums", "questioning", "finding oneself", and individualism in general break down the contracts and interfaces that others used to be able to rely on. The result is atomization, alienation between genders, and below replacement fertility. It's like a class in a dynamically typed language, where you have no idea what the methods or returned types are.'
+
+unless you have lots of fine-grained roles, "make sure the fence-sitters take the typical route" is really bad for me (screws over everyone who doesn't like the standard role, but isn't weird enough to qualify for a nonstandard one, and statistically, there are a lot more sort-of weird people than really-really weird people)
+
+Yes, exactly: https://twitter.com/pangmeli/status/1079097805250224130
+
+perceiving sex: https://twitter.com/janeclarejones/status/1079334679411675136
+
+"thru a conversation with my sister, I was, for the first time ever, able to distinguish between My Type and My Transition Goals" https://twitter.com/esten/status/1080709264899923968
+
+Consequences for other people: I don't know! That's for those other people to decide, not me! But whatever they decide, they'll probably get more of what they want if they have more accurate beliefs! Rationality, motherfuckers! Do you speak it!
+
+I'm saying that the thing that the Zeitgeist is encouraging people to interpret as an atomic identity is almost certainly actually some kind of very specific bug in male sexual psychology that can be interpreted and acted on in various ways! One possible interpretation/action-plan is to split it into two parts: (1) a happy romantic fantasy that I want to indulge somewhat without taking it too far, and (2) a moral responsibility to self-modify at least somewhat in the direction of being more aligned with women (in the sense of AI alignment) even if my volition would naturally be less aligned in the absence of the perceived moral responsibility!
+
+ I agree that I'm being socially disruptive, because I think there are sufficiently serious problems with the current equilibrium of what people are doing, that I've decided to gamble my reputation on staging an intervention! Pretty foolhardy, huh? Well, as evolutionary biologists could tell you, men are all about risk!
+
+ Charity is _not_ about using polite language. Charity is about trying to _see_ what the other motherfucker is doing right!
+
+ misinterpretation of misdirected male sexuality
+
+I agree that a lot of people seem perform the verbal behavior of saying, "A woman is anyone who wants to be!" But like, you know, maybe they're lying!
+
+Human psychology is a very high-dimensional configuration space! If you've bought into an ideology that says that everyone is equal and that therefore psychological sex differences must be small-to-nonexistent, then you can choose to selectively ignore the dimensions along which sex differences are relatively large, and when you're locked into that worldview, it does indeed genuinely look to you like individual personality differences swamp sex differences! And when you're locked into that worldview, looking at the dimensions along which the differences are relatively large is genuinely painful! Once you notice this, maybe you can think of clever strategies to better serve the moral ideal that makes psychological-sex-differences denialism so appealing, while making use of the additional power you gain by letting yourself look at the whole configuration space!
+
+https://arcdigital.media/what-is-gender-identity-10ce0da71999
+
+One way of describing the trigger for me having gone bezerk starting in February is that I'm horrified that my neoreactionary friends are visibly way smarter than my rationalist friends. This is terrible, because kabbalistically, neoreaction is about being evil, and rationality is about being smart. It is written that being smart is more important than being good for humans (because trying to be good typically involves artificially restricting your hypothesis space; if good people don't permit themselves to even consider X, then they'll have trouble modeling a world in which lots of people make their living off X). But I really didn't expect that, in practice, trying to be evil makes you smarter than trying to be smart does!
+
+the oscillation between "I'm embarrassed and upset about {thing} that I don't want to acknowledge or explain, but that makes me not want to acknowledge or explain the fact that I feel embarrassed an upset" vs. "Yes, {thing} is real; real things are allowed to appear on maps"
+
+Goodhart's Lawyer (credit "Wilhelm")
+
+the ugly gray communist 90% crap superstimuli aren't a threat to the values of our ancestors, but the really well done ones, are
+I am the threat
+(the cartoons with female superheroines that make the AGP male heart melt ... but who are noticeably not drawn from the same distribution as ACTUAL WOMEN)
+
+Taking a sabbatical; I'll try to think of it as being a housewife supported by my past self of the past three years
+
+Siezing the Means of Home Production: http://archive.li/9NRrS
+
+!!Con speakers: I count 1 "they/them" woman, 9 probably-actual-women, 3 known/obvious MtF, and 3 "they/them" men (implied 16 normal men remaining (including me?!))
+
+https://abc30.com/homeless-women-harassed-in-shower-lawsuit-says/3514544/
+
+"Jesse Singal is a transphobic piece of shit!"
+
+Separately, may also be worth considering https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preference_falsification … when deciding what merits "piece of shit" status? Who knows if some of the ppl you follow are (e.g.) autogynephilia truthers, but don't write about it under their real name because they see the reaction to Singal?
+
+"That's a suspiciously specific hypothetical."
+
+
+There were a couple of young black women ahead of me at the convenience store who I found physically attractive; I'm given to understand that there's a whole PUA literature about "day game" where you talk to random women, and whether you could have an intellectual conversation with them (across that kind of culture and IQ gap) is besides the point?? It's just so unthinkable to me
+I'm not claiming that my upbringing got the right answer
+Rather, that I'm actually incapable of thinking of other answers independent of rightness
+such that I'll never, ever get to hit that
+I can barely speak of this to anyone but you (I mean, I could, but I do have you as my designated-evil friend)
+one of them was wearing spandex pants
+never get to hit that or be that
+
+Every year, the people who are isomorphic in opinions to you become more masculine (because of everyone moving left), which means they are going to have more inferential distance on gender dysphoria.
+
+Contra affirms self-ID: https://twitter.com/ContraPoints/status/1086351168123621376
+
+divorce court required pronouns: https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/9zgivf/peak_trans_viii_tell_your_story_here/eea6imc/
+
+
+Maybe blame my father (a Bernie Sanders supporter) for accidentally having a copy of _Atlas Shrugged_ on the family bookshelf where I could get at it when I was sixteen.
+
+a man whose initials are B. D. once wrote, "Ultimately, for me, it comes down to a simple moral question: does my right to have a model that accurately predicts your behavior trump your right to control your own narrative? Because if your narrative doesn't match your behavior, then I have to either doublethink around my own perceptions, or reject your narrative. And which way I choose has consequences." (https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154814383695199?comment_id=10154814575900199&reply_comment_id=10154815175090199&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D)
+
+
+-----
+
+https://www.scottishathletics.org.uk/42874-2/
+
+https://drethelin.tumblr.com/post/129304925958/gods-actually-exist
+
+----
+
+the analogy my brain came up with is "yes, I understand that we are genetically aimed at protecting and allying with our kin to increase our inclusive genetic fitness, and that this has caused lots of followon effects in human psychology, including in me and my family. however, please stop calling her my 'fake kid'."
+
+yeah, that's a pretty good analogy
+oooh
+under this analogy, "nonbinary people who aren't successfully androgynous are less legitimate" seems to map to "interracial adoption is less legitimate"
+which
+is not the most comfortable bullet to bite
+it took a little bit of deliberate effort to do the thing of spontaneously generating the uncomfortable bullet and saying "ooooh" rather than flinching away from it
+
+-----
+
+"I'm not at war with trans _people_; I'm at war with the trans-activism memeplex" is a great motte, but to what extent can you war a culture without hurting the people who are devoting their lives against it?
+
+ incentivized/selected for self-delusion, which is really unfair to the people who aren't delusional about it
+
+https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/24/technology/amazon-facial-technology-study.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur "Amazon’s system had more difficulty identifying the gender of female and darker-skinned faces" Do humans have the same problem?! (it's easier to pass FtM than MtF)
+
+
+You have some latitude because you have a pony tail and don't come off as a dudebro, so this makes you look ingroup and non-threatening
+However, watch out for the zeitgeist shifting to where those signifiers might not be enough in the next few years to get away with as much
+I also kind of have breasts?? Does that help???
+
+https://www.kesq.com/news/female-water-polo-players-confronted-by-naked-man-at-palm-springs-swim-center/987276858
+
+woman wanted roller derby as women's space: https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/9zgivf/peak_trans_viii_tell_your_story_here/eesm1d7/
+
+https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/01/is-it-now-a-crime-to-like-a-poem-about-transgenderism/
+
+he/him lesbian also pissed off at trans community: https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/9zgivf/peak_trans_viii_tell_your_story_here/efo1z6g/
+
+"damn one extremely bad way to start my day is having the receptionist at slack say I look like a male celebrity [...] I'm so mad. wow. like. I look like this right now, how could anyone ever think that was an okay thing to say???" (It was a compliment, dummy!!) https://twitter.com/esten/status/1092472430465929216
+
+"what the hell is it gonna take to get you all to stop calling me a dude? like fucking seriously? I'm changing my name, my pronouns have been different for a year and a half, I've been on HRT for 14 months, and a friend just misgendered me" https://twitter.com/esten/status/1098450396102615040
+
+another UK arrest: https://twitter.com/BustedWench/status/1092435717555437569
+
+https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/02/why-are-the-police-stopping-a-74-year-old-tweeting-about-transgenderism/
+
+argument seen on Twitter: "transwomen are transwomen" is like "gays can be civil-unioned". Counter: marriage is wholly socially-constructed, but biological sex is real
+
+"ffs I'm legally practicing ...": https://twitter.com/FeministRoar/status/1092850802299936768 (patient doesn't care about legal fiction)
+
+https://medium.com/@JonnnyBest/the-truth-about-michigan-womyns-festival-and-trans-women-a-correction-899d8e49f655
+
+https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6687123/Mother-arrested-children-calling-transgender-woman-man.html
+
+https://twitter.com/Scientific_Bird/status/1089265017969668097
+
+Is the OP deleted? https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/23piReu6vmfskHyh7/dragon-army-theory-and-charter-30min-read
+
+http://thefutureprimaeval.tumblr.com/post/156517718308/you-may-not-be-interested-in-politics-but
+
+https://twitter.com/Indy_Leya/status/1095257325118648320
+
+"Trying to Be Exp": mention how we don't have shared language to describe what orgasm feels like
+
+there's a problem where if what you actually believe is extremely nuanced, and in some contexts you say something shorter and "punchier" (that's pushing back against a local majority: see "All Debates Are Bravery Debates"), people will ever-so-slightly misinterpret the punchier version and say, "Ah-ha!" like, I'm not _intending_ to motte-and-bailey, but _something_ has to get lost between the 5000-word nuanced version and the version that fits in a Tweet, and I'm sorry that the Tweet version is bailey-like
+
+one woman's precautions against men: https://twitter.com/editingemily/status/1095853582346141697
+
+telling the only woman in a karoke group: you're our only female vocalist, you should sing this part. I wouldn't say that if there was a trans woman in the room; it's a trivial example, but life is composed of these little things
+
+https://www.clearerthinking.org/single-post/2019/02/13/Is-language-influencing-your-beliefs-in-ways-you-dont-realize
+
+re "All Debates Are Bravery Debates": the G. Mitchell "Human Sex Differences" book phrases things in a weird way
+
+https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/fife/819644/mum-of-supermarket-toilet-sex-assault-victim-warns-freed-attacker-could-strike-again/
+
+Falsehood implies anything! https://twitter.com/Nespresso821/status/1097295455170555904
+
+https://twitter.com/every_lesbian/status/1097649372752461824
+
+http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/article/2019/02/the-vagina-monologues-a-feminist-production-with-a-necessary-asterisk
+
+https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2019-02-18/transgender-hormone-therapy-could-pose-heart-dangers I'm glad they at least named the journal (Circulation, Feb 18), but I wish they also included the article title for quick search
+
+https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/transgender-insanity-police-now-jailing-people-for-laughing-at-men-in-women
+https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/man-who-says-hes-female-enters-womens-bathroom-sexually-assaults-10-year-ol
+
+https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/7xnwed/facial-recognition-software-regularly-misgenders-trans-people
+
+https://web.archive.org/web/20190222094427/https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/02/22/rip-culture-war-thread/
+
+more obvious AGP: https://twitter.com/Azure_Husky/status/1100865940986703880
+
+https://theunitofcaring.tumblr.com/post/180522920951/tumblr-is-brainwashing-a-generation-of-autistic
+
+"Got a job interview for a coffee shop. I look like I could be the hot lesbian barista, right?" https://twitter.com/isbeisbeisbe/status/1104007825116811264 But, but "hot lesbian" seems like the kind of thing men who objectify lesbians say, not actual lesbians—not with Probability One, but in balance
+
+more self-gaslighting: "it's because i've actually done the work in my head to internalize that they're not men." https://twitter.com/Anarcho_Vampire/status/1104607455466545152
+
+The end of this comment (https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/azpeio/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_of_march_11_2019/eibaawa/) makes me think that Loury's adverse-selection mechanism also applies here: "Only hateful people express doubt that group differences are caused by self-fulfilling prophecies" is a self-fulfilling prophecy?
+
+Moldbug being less-racist: https://web.archive.org/web/20170720053316/https://medium.com/@curtis.yarvin/thanks-ian-this-conversation-has-only-gotten-more-civil-c5d1414ac817
+
+'saying that there are “TRUE trans people” and “mistaken cis people” is like saying there are “people who are biologically MEANT to have tattoos” and “people who THOUGHT they wanted tattoos”.' https://twitter.com/trialeterror/status/1100407836419346433
+
+https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8647171/transgender-woman-sexually-assaulted-girl-morrisons/
+
+Cohen's d visualizer! https://rpsychologist.com/d3/cohend/
+
+When I say "I like you a lot" to Jessica, it's a weird interaction between "I'm in love with her because I'm modeling her as an actual woman", but "I'm less afraid of hurting her"—being that forward to a cis woman would be creepy. Notice how strongly Sarah reacted to the counterfactual marriage proposal.
+
+http://loyolaphoenix.com/2019/03/menstrual-products-in-luc-bathrooms-disappearing-and-tampered-with/
+
+a FB acquaintance writes: "!!! someone finally messaged me a graphic fantasy of raping me, completely unprompted! I'm a real woman now!" And then, in the comments: "don't be sad! it was hot"
+
+a FB acquaintance writes: "I mean.. there was a time in my life when I had a single token cis friend, and I was very happy with that situation. [...] I certainly am tempted to go back to a mostly trans-exclusive social life, even if there's still some misunderstanding of my gender in that situation." (Wow, that's pretty cultish!!)
+
+https://sportsscientists.com/2019/03/on-transgender-athletes-and-performance-advantages/
+
+AGP/furry combo comic: https://twitter.com/WolFirry/status/1110259481479467010
+
+read this: https://medium.com/@kemenatan
+
+biological sex denialism https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/opinion/trans-women-feminism.html
+
+Contrapoints peak: https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/9zgivf/peak_trans_viii_tell_your_story_here/ek0a1qv/
+Harassment peak: https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/9zgivf/peak_trans_viii_tell_your_story_here/ek0wehg/
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/itsafetish/comments/bb27gx/i_didnt_get_an_erection_when_putting_on_a_ball/
+
+"According to our newsgathering partners at the News and Tribune, Brown asked managers, 'How do you know I'm not a female?'" https://www.wthr.com/article/clark-county-man-arrested-sexually-assault-woman-walmart-bathroom
+
+https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/04/11/234-house-democrats-2-republicans-co-sponsor-bill-forcing-schools-to-let-male-athletes-compete-on-girls-sports-teams/
+https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/1006/text
+
+How do you know it wasn't just a straight friendship?? https://stevenuniversallyreviews.tumblr.com/post/184181025733/episode-108-future-boy-zoltron
+
+https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2019/04/lack-of-black-doctoral-students/587413/
+
+a Facebook acquaintance (who didn't pass very well when we met in October): 'Of course, those of you who know me on other platforms see me being very lesbian every day, to such a degree that I have been described as "the community gay"'
+
+https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/12/radical-feminist-warned-refer-transgender-defendant-assault/
+
+"yeah in public we say 'cis women' but tran to tran we just say 'women,' we‘re not insane lol"
+no transsexual is like 'from a young age all i ever wanted was to be.. cis'
+https://twitter.com/theorygurl/status/1062451652836446208
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/bhulic/i_cant_do_this_any_more_i_need_to_divorce_my/
+
+thanks for the marketing advice! I should _definitely_ take that into account if I ever decide to put more effort into "persuading people", which sounds like something that an aspiring instrumental rationalist would care about. Perhaps unfortunately, however, I'm an aspiring epistemic rationalist: all I can do is try to communicate what I actually think and feel using clear language (and standard rhetorical techniques like sarcasm, satire, &c. that people know how to interpret even if they wouldn't be clear if someone naïvely took the words literally). If other people aren't persuaded by this ... maybe they _shouldn't_ be! Maybe I can live with that!
+
+You _can't_ optimize your group's culture for not-talking-about-atheism without also optimizing against understanding Occam's razor; you _can't_ optimize for not questioning gender self-identity without also optimizing against understanding "A Human's Guide to Words."
+
+I guess I can't argue with that, but I wish I knew what happened to my wallet
+
+https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/05/ray-blanchard-transgender-orthodoxy/
+
+circle game paranoia: http://www.unz.com/isteve/bad-juju-in-oak-park-il/
+
+https://medium.com/@barrakerr/pronouns-are-rohypnol-dbcd1cb9c2d9
+
+https://arcdigital.media/on-transwomen-and-sports-54fe1a8963e
+
+https://medium.com/@katieja/young-children-reality-sex-and-gender-3421f4f165f1
+
+https://knowingless.com/2019/06/06/side-effects-of-preferred-pronouns/
+
+"please like think before you go around using “afab” or “amab” to refer broadly to groups of people in your tweets. neither of these categories are like coherent social categories in any way, and are often used in ways that perpetuate trans misogyny" https://twitter.com/folkpunkjunk/status/1140278990072102912
+
+https://medium.com/@aytchellis/talking-past-each-other-about-trans-gender-1da8e058caf8
+
+https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/teen-17-who-sparked-row-for-saying-there-are-only-two-genders-suspended-from-school-for-three-weeks-a4173736.html
+
+
+"> Yet somehow a lot of people seem to think they can throw away basic ration
+ality 101 as soon as their inside view tells them they're on to something.\n\nI think we (\"we\") sh
+ould encourage some degree of cognitive division of labor rather than assuming a unified, consensus-
+driven rationality community. If your inside view tells you that you're really on to something and y
+et \"everyone else\" seems to think you're crazy, that's a _really interesting_ learning opportunity for _someone_! Maybe you _should_ go off on your own and explore that thing really hard for a while, build your own models, and then come back later and try to sell the rest of the community on what you think you've learned. Certainly, this is a high-risk bet (most of the time, \"everyone else\" is correct and the contrarian will end up having wasted years of her life on something useless and crazy), but sometimes, those pay off!
+
+ "comment": "Sophia\n\n> Why do you refer to mutual attempts to replace others' narratives as a zero-sum game?\n\nNew guess: because I'm incredibly prone to inventing spurious conservation laws when I get upset. Last time it was conservation of happiness/suffering (http://zackmdavis.net/blog/2013/03/religious/); this time, it's ... um, more complicated.",
+
+
+ "> I am curious though, when you have the belief that you are being programmed by your phone, are you capable of evaluating how probable that is?\n\n... it's complicated. I _still_ have this vague, intuitive sense that it would be useful to compare the variation in my behavior that's explained by variation in phone notifications with the variation in the phone's behavior that's explained by me, but I don't know how to make this more precise (and I'm being far more precise/lucid/non-delusional about it now than I was at the time)."
+
+"I mean, another part of it is that \"homophobia\" isn't going to be a natural category in human psychology. Suppose the personality trait is actually \"risk aversion with respect to social change.\" This could manifest as \"homophobia\" for people who grew up before _Obergefell v. Hodges_, but something completely different for people growing up today.",
+
+comment": "Protip: \"Have you ever thought of harming yourself?\" is actually code for \"Are you stupid enough to answer 'Yes' to this question so that I can imprison you in order to create the illusion that my job is useful and extract thousands of dollars from your health insurance company?\"",
+
+"Suppose political coalition C is promoting ideas P and Q, and I agree with P, but Q seems really really REALLY bad. When speaking as an individual about my ideas with people who understand ideas, I definitely want to be specific and just say \"P is good, but Q is very bad,\" without saying anything for or against either coalition C or its rival coalition D. But insofar as most people don't have the spare cognitive capacity to separate P and Q, and instead just think of people as \"one of the Cs\" or \"one of the Ds\", I might want to avoid phrasing things in a way that people would construe as support for C. Because Q is _just that bad_."
+
+Elizabeth, for that matter, one wonders how many trans people have ever seen a Muslim in real life and vice versa. If more of them had, maybe these groups wouldn't be in the same coalition!",
+
+"I agree with Kara that social-justice folk find it useful to model alt-right folks as politically profiting from being debated at all. But likewise, alt-right folks find it useful to model social-justice folks as politically profiting from shutting down debate. These elementary game-theoretic observations, while correct, don't help us decide which laws and cultural norms will have which consequences.\n\nI suspect a lot of people who don't consider themselves competent to evaluate consequences might want to strategically support whichever coalition currently happens to support more open debate (because of reasons: http://zackmdavis.net/blog/2017/03/an-intuition-on-the-bayes-structural-justification-for-free-speech-norms/), and then switch sides when that coalition becomes too powerful and starts trying to silence _its_ enemies. However, when evaluating this suggestion of mine, you should take into account that I have an ulterior motive for getting people to oppose the social-justice coalition, which I am at war with for my own personal reasons."
+
+"Really sorry if this sounds rude! This is literally just how I talk now!"
+
+"If you think you're smart enough to optimize the universe all by yourself, sure. I'm not that smart! I want to join coalitions that reward their members for being transparent, because I predict that gangs of monkeys that divide up the last banana using program equilibrium will outcompete gangs of monkeys that sell the last banana in a second-price auction, who will in turn outcompete gangs of monkeys that literally fight over the banana."
+
+ "On the other hand, \"software to tell if someone is actually more emotionally distraught than you might think\" is pretty cool as a machine-learning/statistics trick! I wonder what interventions could incentivize Facebook to just publish the model so that people could learn from it _without_ subjecting us to a future of the Facebook Community Operations Team stamping on a human face forever??"
+
+"Come to think of it, I actually expect the \"suppressing speech fuels conspiracy theories\" effect is _justified_ in a Bayesian sense: if the fraction of hypotheses-that-people-want-to-ban that are true is higher than the fraction of hypotheses-in-general that are true, the fact that a lot people want to ban a hypothesis is probabilistic evidence that it's true.
+
+"Given that English has gendered personal pronouns and it's not feasible to redesign the English language to change this, marking babies in some way to indicate their biological sex (with clothing color, or perhaps by gluing something to them) can be a useful social technology, because it allows people to just say, \"She's such a good baby!\" without having to ask about the baby's sex. Now, obviously, we don't want to indoctrinate innocent babies into oppressive gender roles that might not be a good fit for them, and I agree that gendered clothing increases our risk of falling into this well-trodden failure mode. But maybe there's some way for smart people who understand the problem in sufficient detail to avoid that failure mode, without becoming pawns in a memetic war against \"noticing that biological sex continues to be a predictively-useful concept.\""
+
+laim that the cultural presumption that anything bad that happens to trans people (like losing a job) is probably due to discrimination and transphobia is actually bad for trans people in the long run, because it incentivizes other members of society to treat trans people like inherently fragile designated victims (to be avoided if possible and coddled if not possible), rather than just ordinary people who happen to be trans\u00e2\u0080\u0094if you were a business owner, you wouldn't want to hire someone who you couldn't fire without fearing a lawsuit, and if you can't not-hire them without also fearing a lawsuit, conveniently happening to lose their resume starts looking like a good life strategy! You can't outlaw Bayesian reasoning and feedback mechanisms! I understand why it's tempting to think that you can, but don't hate the player; hate the game-theoretic nature of all life!",
+
+ people treat an organisation with more respect and status than simply bunch of people\n\nYes, exactly! This is an exciting arbitrage opportunity for agents who care less about respect and status (in the eyes of people who respect institutions; they may care about an alternative gray/black market of respect and status), and more about Doing Things That Make Sense Even If That's Not the Way Things Are Done Around Here.",
+
+"I think sufficiently self-aware, sufficiently prosocial narcissists and sociopaths deserve love! I hope I don't have any ulterior motives for saying this! (I don't _think_ I'm a narcissist or a sociopath, but people can have false beliefs about themselves.)",
+
+My personal paraphrase of the common theme in this and other \"What were they thinking??\" thinkpieces is: \"Defecting against the victimhood identity politics mind-virus is more important than whichever schmuck happens to be President\". I live in non-swing-state California and voted for Gary Johnson, but I actually agree with this now, if only because I'm terrified that the victimhood identity politics mind-virus is trying to eat the next generation of people like me and no one else seems to care, to the extent that I had a delusional nervous breakdown and spent three miserable days in a psychiatric hospital, which three days could have been longer if it weren't for my quick wit (specifically, the ability, when feeling threatened, to use verbal skills to manipulate social reality rather than describe actual reality), the fact that the other patients/inmates knew the security code, and Michael Vassar's willingness to pretend to be a doctor.\n\nI'm sorry to keep telling this story over and over, but this is analogous to a religious conversion experience (I want people to explicitly engineer social technologies that provide the good parts of traditional religions and institutions, but more fun and without the lies: http://lesswrong.com/lw/5t/can_humanism_match_religions_output/), and I don't have any practice being a missionary! Please bear with me!"
+
+who should be classified as having the Bad Man property and therefore be excluded from coalitions!
+
+
+ thanks for the marketing advice! I should _definitely_ take that into account if I ever decide to put more effort into \"persuading people\", which sounds like something that an aspiring instrumental rationalist would care about. Perhaps unfortunately, however, I'm an aspiring epistemic rationalist: all I can do is try to communicate what I actually think and feel using clear language (and standard rhetorical techniques like sarcasm, satire, &c. that people know how to interpret even if they wouldn't be clear if someone na\u00c3\u00afvely took the words literally). If other people aren't persuaded by this ... maybe they _shouldn't_ be! Maybe I can live with that!"
+
+
+I _really, really_ don't want to participate in an oppression Olympics; I think it would be _really really bad_ to try to settle social-norms disputes with a competition to see which coalition can rack up more probabilistic suicides. (Just think about what incentives that creates!) But for the people who _are_ going to make decisions on the basis of probabilistic suicides _anyway_, surely my suffering deserves to be counted, too?
+
+True male side/true female side: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/FBgozHEv7J72NCEPB/my-way#AEZaakdcqySmKMJYj
+
+policing: "we definitely expect better models of gender out of you": https://twitter.com/atax1a/status/1157066530028265473
+
+I just thought of an interesting argument that almost no one else would (because it requires both prog-sight and NRx-sight)
+You know the "signaling hazard" (pace Jim) argument against public tolerance of male homosexuality (tolerating gays interferes with normal men expressing affection for each other without being seen as gay, which is bad for unit cohesion, &c.). Until recently, I hadn't thought much of it (because of my prog upbringing)—why do you care if someone isn't sure you're straight?
+but recent events have made me more sympathetic to its empirical reality—if human nature is such that 140+ IQ ppl actually can't publicly clear up a trivial philosophy-of-language dispute because of the fear of appearing transphobic—well, that's really dumb, but it's the SAME KIND of dumb as "can't express male friendship because of the fear of appearing gay"
+which suggests a "signaling hazard" argument in favor of political correctness (!!)—we can't tolerate racism, or else Good people would have to incur more costs to signal antiracism (same structure as "we can't tolerate gays, or else normal guys have to incur more costs to signal not-gayness")
+
+older works (pre-second wave feminism?) would actually say "man" (or "woman"—see how anachronistic it feels to put the female option second and in parentheses?), presumably not because human nature has changed that much, but because of shifting cultural priorities about when sex is "relevant." (Modern speakers [similarly frown on](https://agentultra.com/blog/the-black-man-stopped-me/) mentioning race when it's not relevant.)
+
+My gender crusade becomes much less interesting insofar as it can be explained simply by me being born too early and not getting "kids these days." It's not that cultural change is necessarily bad; it's that I want culture to innovate in the direction of "achieving godlike understanding of objective reality and optimizing the hell out of it" rather than "playing mind games on each other to make it artificially harder to notice that we don't actually live in a Total Morphological Freedom tech regime."
+
+
+"Had I not transitioned, I would fear the power you have over me, and remain silent." https://aria.dog/support-all-your-friends/
+
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/comments/cqplrh/how_do_yall_cope_in_mixed_trans_spaces/
+
+Raven is cosplayed more than any other Teen Titan
+
+[thousand-dollar ultra-realistic mask](https://www.creafx.com/en/special-make-up-effects/taylor-silicone-mask/)
+
+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGTKL9LokHg (wait for the reveal at 0:44!)
+
+colorful sandals
+
+even my post-redpill intuitions endorse something like "White people can't be racist" and "Men can't be sexist", but rather than "-ism is power plus privilege", the rationale is "We're thick-skinned and have better things to do than play victimhood politics"
+
+
+ I thought it should be acceptable for someone to send one final "OK, sorry" message in response to being told to stop contacting someone
+where I feel like my position is analogous to Scott Aaronson's complaint about his police encounter: https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=3903 , that people who are in the process of complying should be treated with good faith; you don't want the cops to shoot unarmed men and defend themselves on the grounds of, "Well, he wasn't complying fast enough"
+
+that's the thing; I read as lefty because I am morally lefty (in contrast to Real Men Who Lift &c.); it's just that I had the "bad luck" of reading everything I could about race and IQ after the James Watson affair in 'aught-seven, and all my leftness is filtered through ten years of living with inconvenient hypotheses
+
+"Every year, the people who are isomorphic in opinions to you become more masculine (because of everyone moving left), which means they are going to have more inferential distance on gender dysphoria."
+
+you can get away with a lot when you read as a lefty? At hack day, someone said they read about Pinterest's skin-tone debiaser tech being thrown out because it drew on very old papers by a EUGENICIST (article turned out to be https://www.wired.com/story/pinterest-skin-tone-search/ ), and I was like, Oh, interesting, so what was wrong with the research? That got an incredulous stare: "You mean, what's wrong with eugenics??!" And I'm like, no, that's not what I mean, I'm curious about the specfiic technical flaw, which is distinct from the author's odious views
+and then someone else related an anecdote about JPEG being racist (because the standard was defined to match old chemical photography, which was optimized for pictures of white people), which is the kind of legit answer I was looking for, to which I could respond with a proggy "Wooooooow"
+I know how to pronounce "shibboleth" correctly
+almost wish I had been brave enough to go for "It depends on what you mean by 'eugenics'; embryo selection looks super exciting" (the last time I said this in public, at my old company's holiday party the other year, I got a fair amount of horrified disbelief)
+
+the conjunction of (a) Katie Cohen getting beaten up by the police and dragged to psychiatric prison, (b) the Linux Contributor Covenant thing, and (c) the Brett Cavanagh thing has restored my "the strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must"-sight, which may prove instrumentally useful for doing social science
+
+Kavanagh outgroup-male Till
+
+the Gods of the Copybook Headings might call it cuckoldry, but I call it Practice
+
+(I should confess that while part of the joy of hearing non-Berkeley-2018 views is the intellectual profit of engaging with ideas, a possibly-larger part is just relief at being able to punch right for once, now that I spend most of my time these days punching left)
+
+
+my insufficiently requited love "Beatrice" retweeted this: https://twitter.com/whodamanny/status/1045409509546446848
+
+whatever actually happened in that interview is less interesting than the fact that Manny thinks this makes him look good. The candidate ... raised his voice? That's it??
+
+But if I find this kind of thing baffling/annoying rather than outrageous, is that an inherent men-don't-play-victimhood-politics asymmetry, or is it just because I know outrage is not a winning move in the contingent environment of Berkeley 2018? (Contrast to black men feeling outraged at having security called on them friviously)
+
+my writing is not doing much on this front, because even if I don't get ostracized, people are just like, "Oh, Zack, he writes weird transphobic stuff but is otherwise OK" whereas people actually like and publicly-praise and listen to [...]
+
+there might be a lot of AGP-transitioners in the win condition
+just not the kind that enter women's bike races and gloat about it
+
+(I would still be at war with it if I thought I could win; unfortunately, Mother Nature has the big guns)
+
+Chesterson has many fences on his property
+I like the second-wave "Free to Be You and Me" space where you loudly insist that girls can do anything, but don't pretend that biological sex is fake, which is past some of the fences (quite a lot of them, really), but not as far as Berkeley 2018
+
+what I would really love to see in the open-source world is opposition to the trans agenda, from women, on radical feminist grounds
+but ... you know, there aren't very many women around to begin with
+
+I wonder what would have happened if Kavanaugh had been AGP and transitioned ten years ago, but all the other facts of the case were the same
+
+
+there's also the phenomenon of people who are aggressively SJWish also being noticeably not familiar about the position/community they're defending as detectible by shibboleth usage (someone I had a long back-and-forth on /r/slatestarcodex had never heard the term "deadnaming" before; tech guy with "he/him" in his bio spells "transwoman" as one word)
+(I spell "trans woman" as two words not because I believe the "it's just an adjective for a kind of woman" bullshit, but I know the shibboleths and so does my audience)
+but you never had to go to seminary to be offended by blasphemy
+
+psychology note about the Quillette meetup: I felt really uncomfortable with how the organizer (an older white man) wanted to talk about the dysfunctionality of black communities, not because I expected to disagree too much, but because he didn't make an effort to signal that he had a non-racial-animus-motivated reason to be interested in the topic (contrast this to how I constantly mention "I was on HRT for five months" during my campaign; I need to say that to show that I have skin in the game)
+Yeah, that seems a bit edgy for Quillette
+That guy was probably in cognitive dissonance and feeling the need to test the waters
+I felt especially awkward being at a table with him in public in the context of the black waitress complementing me on my Steven Universe T-shirt five minutes earlier
+
+I guess I see your point that if I can't trust these clowns to even put a "social trust" term into their utilitarian pseudo-calculation for open bathrooms, then I shouldn't trust them on open borders, either
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/itsafetish/comments/cp1tap/gender_euphoria_genital_engorgement_whats_the/
+
+https://humanvarieties.org/2017/07/01/measurement-error-regression-to-the-mean-and-group-differences/
+
+I'm imagining that there's some margin at which the shame and intimidation is counterbalanced by E pur si muove concerns. (Conditional on the hypothesis that, in fact, e pur si muove.)
+
+http://www.trans.cafe/posts/2016/6/27/17-signs-i-was-transgender-but-didnt-know-it
+
+https://medium.com/@transstyleguide/alternatives-to-afab-and-amab-d7cf8fe20a72
+
+There are Facts About Males that neurotypicals probably don't explain in words? Something about how a gentleman who doesn't want to be more specific, if he were going to be more specific, might end up using the word curvature. But maybe I've already said too much.
+
+support group can't mention anatomy: https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/bripts/peak_trans_ix_tell_your_story_here/f6wjry3/
+
+https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/transwomen-in-my-ptsd-group-and-performing-femininity.1004483/
+
+Damore new job: https://twitter.com/JamesADamore/status/1034623633174478849
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/itsafetish/comments/d54b7x/thank_you_and_goodbye/
+
+"Genuine question: Are there any straight transitioned women out there? Who weren’t previously gay?" https://twitter.com/IndiaWilloughby/status/1204773053986725889
+
+https://twitter.com/LaraAdamsMille1/status/1199132705478381568
+
+-----
+
+If someone wants to rewrite this post because they can do a better job of it (perhaps, as Jim suggests, because the post has objective flaws that are causually related to the author's crimes), that's great.
+
+If someone wants to re-write the post because we want to use the idea but it would be embarrassing to give the author credit for it, that's just PR-driven plagiarism. And I don't think it would even work.
+
+Suppose we include "Affordance Widths" in the Best-of-2018 collection as-is. If /r/SneerClub gets word of it, they'll point and sneer and say, "Look, the robot cult blog just canonized a post by a rapist! What terrible people they are!"
+
+Suppose we get someone to re-write the post because of the reputational risk. If /r/SneerClub gets word of it, they'll point to this discussion and sneer and say, "The robot cult blog rewrote a post because they're worried about reputational risks. But the fact that their rationale was 'reputational risks' suggests that they don't know that rape is wrong. What terrible people they are!"
+
+And they would kind of have a point? The function of "bad reputation" is to correspond to things that are actually bad.
+
+-----
+
+https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/12/childrens-transgender-clinic-hit-35-resignations-three-years/
+
+'someone saying they're MtF is like waving a big red flag in front of me that says, "I will try to seduce you in the creepiest way, talk your ear off about model trains, and violate your boundaries with my fetishes."' https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/dy7241/peak_trans_x_tell_your_story_here/faj48v9/
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/eacgc5/a_tim_in_healthcare/
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/eab3wy/relieved_to_see_a_woman/
+
+TW/TERF rape fantasy https://twitter.com/LaraAdamsMille1/status/1209258661769621506
+
+peeling back another layer of the onion of algorithmic bad faith, "Why are you being so nice to me here?! I obviously don't deserve it!" was pretty performative on my part (not because I was consciously putting on an act, but in the sense that all human social behavior is an act), a socio-psychological "immune response" developed in response to a tendency I perceive for people to collude to be nice to each other (pretending to agree with whoever they're currently talking to) rather than coordinating to produce shared maps. So in contrast to the usual pattern of people optimizing their speech to deflect blame from themselves, I put on a show of allocating blame to (my past) self to signal that I care about Justice (people being blamed the correct amount), even when that amount of blame would be unjust if someone else were doing it rather than it being performative social self-injury. I HOPE this comment makes sense, but let me know if it instead reads as illegible Vassarian moonspeak.
+
+"Telling soldiers in a war that their bullets are destroying valuable human knowledge is not hard to understand - but they often won't respond the way you'd hope." https://twitter.com/ben_r_hoffman/status/1122953098761330692
+
+"Being misgendered means that how you saw yourself, just a woman casually discussing a TV show or a movie, suddenly gets stripped away and replaced with "...but of course we know you're really a man." It’s nightmarish.
+
+It means that all of the other people who have been saying 'she' might have been just 'playing along.'" well, yes
+
+ https://byrslf.co/i-wasnt-annoyed-at-your-misgendering-me-b13cd9480b2c
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/eh0wz9/tim_at_my_gym_has_terrible_etiquette_in_the/
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/ehy9td/transwomen_in_the_changeroom_my_experience_as_a/
+
+four studies using multivariate methodology in personality: https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2019/12/sex-differences-in-personality-are-large-and-important.html
+
+Yglasis's mask slips: https://archive.md/jf7ur
+
+bronies: https://twitter.com/TransSalamander/status/1045911272670339072
+
+https://feminina.eu/2017/10/24/why-blanchardians-are-scientifically-unsound-and-no-its-not-because-activists-hate-them/
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/dy7241/peak_trans_x_tell_your_story_here/feycktw/
+
+https://twitter.com/kittypurrzog/status/1220842510248886272
+
+https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2020/01/24/42658513/seattle-school-board-takes-steps-to-dismantle-gifted-program
+
+"For goodness sake, I mean your pronouns are on your damned jacket!" https://twitter.com/BrieCayne/status/1221212541977800704
+
+academic freedom on campus: https://cliffmass.blogspot.com/2019/10/the-university-of-washington-should-not.html
+
+https://www.unz.com/isteve/post-gay-marriage-cont/
+
+"Dodging learning people's deadnames like some sort of willfully ignorant ninja." https://twitter.com/yaahc_/status/1222542847322099713
+
+https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2013/08/31/it-must-be-said/
+
+the people you're afraid of aren't going to read a blog whose URL is _unremediatedgender.space_
+
+[Felix Conrad](http://transcendmovement.com/felix-conrad-confesses-that-he-secretly-believes-in-autogynephilia/)—
+
+[link is dead, but it's allegedly in his Kindle book]
+
+> Imagine the following scenario: a researcher discovers that one ethnic group has a lower IQ than another and that the cause is genetic–not educational. In my opinion that research is as dangerous as a toxic virus and I’d wipe any hard drive that contained such research. That is intellectual integrity in my opinion.
+
+Protip: you don't have to preemptively commit suicide! Wait for other people to kill you instead! (Desired privacy settings for this update: people smart enough to understand metaphors.)
+
+"how did you realize you were non-binary": https://twitter.com/QueerGirlEmilie/status/1225517017035350016
+
+religious affiliation is shared environment https://twitter.com/ent3c/status/1161717179802443778
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/f1nedr/tims_bragging_in_female_weight_lifting_subs/
+
+during a Feb 2020 discussion of salary transparency: "For those of you telling me I make too much: [...] I'm one of the top women in my role." https://twitter.com/theavalkyrie/status/1228528673726140416 She transitioned in May 2018!! (https://blog.thea.codes/i-am-thea) Last year's taxable income: $360k https://twitter.com/theavalkyrie/status/1228457455350235137
+
+> prairie dogs are not a type of dog and guinea pigs are not a type of pig https://www.reddit.com/r/GCdebatesQT/comments/f4dmsf/all_for_those_who_find_the_term_cis_offensive_how/fhqah6k/
+
+> The function of 'trans' in that term is to indicate that they're not actually a type of woman.
+>
+> Compare: counterfeit money, toy gun, soy milk, glass pearls, veggie meat, faux fur https://www.reddit.com/r/GCdebatesQT/comments/f4dmsf/all_for_those_who_find_the_term_cis_offensive_how/fhpxjx0/
+
+"privative adjective": http://www.cogsci.ucsd.edu/~coulson/Fake/fakeguns.htm
+
+> Long story short, I was pro-trans until I had exposure to actual trans people. Then the wrongthink started creeping in: wow, this looks an awful lot like a social contagion and wow, this looks an awful lot like a homophobic fetish and wow, this looks an awful lot like lesbian self-erasure and wow, this looks an awful lot like a protracted exercise in medically-assisted self harm. https://www.reddit.com/r/GCdebatesQT/comments/f1finv/formerly_qt_supporters_who_are_now_gc_what_made/fh5tzj5/
+
+> being a trans woman is 10% war on hair & 90% coming to terms w the fact that wanting tits ultimately led to u joining an anti nazi coalition
+https://twitter.com/avaavita/status/908416401312018433
+
+http://www.generation-online.org/c/fcbiopolitics2.htm
+
+selection effect: "TERFs never pass" https://www.reddit.com/r/GCdebatesQT/comments/emgk0t/to_qt_a_solution_to_trans_in_sports/fdyj2wl/
+
+https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/female-prisoner-takes-government-to-court-after-alleged-assault-by-transgender-inmate-n5wtg2nf7
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/itsafetish/comments/e8qa7x/im_just_scared_that_if_i_cum_ill_think_im_not/
+
+> If you are angry or think it's "unfair" for a trans girl to beat a cis girl in a sporting event then fundamentally you don’t think trans girls are "real" girls. It’s that simple. [Bullet-biters in both camps agree!] https://twitter.com/chasestrangio/status/1229407118119391234
+
+> Never mind that, for instance, a recent employment tribunal decision in the UK directly contradicts them by stating that an absolutist belief in immutable and binary sex is incompatible with the human dignity and rights of others. https://medium.com/@KatjaT/a-pinch-of-expertise-plus-a-ton-of-speculation-a85684120160
+
+nostalgia: https://queersingularity.wordpress.com/2010/06/23/with-regards-to-the-gender-question-i-advise-feminist-revolution/
+
+-----
+
+but notably, the debate is "played-out" _not_ because anyone has pinned down a decisive flaw in my _extremely modest_ core philosophical claims (which do _not_ immediately imply any particular policy position about trans issues, but would be _relevant_ for _figuring out_ the optimal social policy, which I explicitly claim not to have done), but because I'm thinking sufficiently outside of the _Zeitgeist_ that I can't be allowed to win arguments in public—"They will form a united front and gaslight you," as Ziz put it (<https://sinceriously.fyi/social-reality/>)
+
+_Extremely modest_ core claim: cognitively useful categories need non-circular truth conditions that make predictions about many observations (meta-level version: <https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/esRZaPXSHgWzyB2NL/where-to-draw-the-boundaries>, object-level version: <http://unremediatedgender.space/2018/Feb/the-categories-were-made-for-man-to-make-predictions/>); the only serious reason _not_ to do this is to make coordination earlier (meta-level version: <https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/edEXi4SpkXfvaX42j/schelling-categories-and-simple-membership-tests>, object-level version: <http://unremediatedgender.space/2019/Oct/self-identity-is-a-schelling-point/>), but "this shared category makes coordination easier" is a _very different_ rationale from "this shared category makes people happier directly", which I claim is "wireheading" from an AI-design perspective, and you would expect a different _rationale_ to imply different decisions even in advance of having worked out exactly what those decisions should be
+
+I sometimes get sloppy and angry in real-time discussions (I'm a _lot_ smarter in asynchronous media) in a way that I often regret, but I think it should be sympathetic and understandable that it would be extremely frustrating when you put in a _lot_ of work over _many_ months spelling all this out at the length of many thousands of words, _and_ responding to critics (<http://unremediatedgender.space/tag/ozy/>), and discovering that it mostly just ... doesn't matter, because the _Zeitgeist_ is just not responsive to careful philosophical arguments
+
+okay, I still need to write another multi-thousand word post (again, probably two posts) explaining the "wireheading" claim
+
+_that's_ probably my problem; I need to write two more blog posts
+
+then, everyone will understand
+
+-----
+
+19 February, the kid reportedly said, "I'll put a piglet in my salad because I want to kill lots of animals." None of the grownups construed this as a reversal of the earlier vegetarianism claim, because none of the grownups took the earlier claim seriously.
+
+1 March: "When i grow up i'm gonna eat pigs."
+
+14 March: "I'm a pterodactyl dragon."
+
+17 March: "I was a hospital before but then I went through a metamorphosis...now I'm a crocodile."
+
+13 June: re "lesbian [...] seems actually just implementable in behavior without other resources" ... not even hormone replacement therapy? Frankly, I think this attitude is cruel (in its effects, however benevolent the intentions). Transitioning, or not-transitioning, is a serious life decision with wide-ranging social and medical implications. In order to help people make the right decision—whatever that turns out to be—I want people to have the most accurate information possible and the most precise concepts possible. Getting this stuff right—not just stopping at the first answer that sounds good to your Tumblr followers—is actually decision-relevant to me. In twelve years, it could very well be decision-relevant to Merlin.
+
+"The problem is not social engineering! The problem is _incompetent_ social engineering! The problem is not experimenting on children! The problem is experimenting on children in the service of an ideological crusade rather than in the service of finding out what happens!" https://www.facebook.com/zmdavis/posts/10154963540980199 (Mike Liked it)
+
+20 Apr: "she didn't name herself after a fictional character, she was very heavily railroaded into that"
+
+reply: "I'm not sure she's old enough to understand the implications of naming yourself after a fictional character." (I didn't challenge, because I sensed I've already used up my latitude)
+
+20 Apr: "Honestly this is super unsurprising in hindsight / She likes trucks and power tools and children's TV"
+
+-----
+
+smart fascism—
+> Cops don't spend a lot of resources prioritizing "drugs" as such. They face political pressure to deal with violence and property crime, which has clear intersections with drug activity. They'll use drug charges opportunistically to deal with people they want to get off the street, but the bulk of police activity is stuff I want to see enforced, against people I want to see incarcerated.
+https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/f6zuip/whats_the_most_controversial_opinion_that_you/fi90y07/
+> city administrations and law enforcement see things like minor drug charges as a way to harass people they want off the street for other reasons
+https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/f6zuip/whats_the_most_controversial_opinion_that_you/fibxyxl/
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/f7sn2o/no_matter_how_feminine_they_want_to_pose_the_most/
+
+> the social justice mentality being as much a regular expression search as it is an ideology
+https://twitter.com/GabrielRossman/status/1229461398247198720
+
+https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NiceJobBreakingItHero is a religious deconversion trope
+
+----
+
+A mother I know jokes—
+
+> I'm gonna go ahead and buy underwear
+> does he happen to have a preference between briefs or boxer briefs
+> why is underwear so gender
+> "what's in your pants" "gender" "but -" "bought some gender off amazon"
+
+But, flies are actually functional.
+
+---
+
+in "memetics"/"social-control monkey warfare" world, there is no progresss; there is no citations; people just have the same argument over and over again, and whichever egregore has the most bodies and the most volume steamrolls the opposition into accepting their version of social reality
+
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/GCdebatesQT/comments/dxtgh7/qt_do_you_encourage_other_trans_redditors_to_come/f7wng98/
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/dy7241/peak_trans_x_tell_your_story_here/filh1fn/
+
+
+https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/1229060502984306689
+> For those determined to miss the point, I deplore the idea of a eugenic policy. I simply said deploring it doesn’t mean it wouldn’t work. Just as we breed cows to yield more milk, we could breed humans to run faster or jump higher. But heaven forbid that we should do it.
+
+> While a limited form of selection in humans is acceptable—for example, preventing a couple who are carriers of a recessive genetic defect or disease from producing an offspring with that condition—the kind of wholesale and directed selective breeding of humans suggested by the word “eugenics” is immoral, and I don’t favor it at all.
+https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2020/02/20/discovery-institute-makes-hay-of-dawkins-tweet-and-a-geneticist-mistakenly-says-that-artificial-selection-wont-work-in-humans/
+
+> I hold eugenics to be completely immoral and we should not attempt to implement it.
+https://twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1229890352275955713
+
+> "We must be guided by solidarity, not stigma," the director general of the World Health Organization warned on Saturday. "The greatest enemy we face is not the virus itself; it’s the stigma that turns us against each other."
+https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1229832977472946184
+https://archive.is/1pQ4p
+
+https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1230577418559270913
+
+coronavirus, Elizabeth Warren
+
+https://quillette.com/2020/02/02/i-may-have-gender-dysphoria-but-i-still-prefer-to-base-my-life-on-biology-not-fantasy/
+
+> Trans athletes are not a threat. We need to protect trans kids—and all LGBTQ+ kids—and ensure they feel safe and welcomed at school. I urge the Arizona legislature to reject this cruel bill.
+
+get ahead on perscriptions
+
+https://www.edge.org/response-detail/26714
+
+> It is easier to work in the service industry than to live as a trans woman who can't pass.
+https://twitter.com/GlamDamorous/status/1231985917633548305
+
+https://medium.com/@evakurilova/what-a-chinese-idiom-tells-us-about-gender-identity-ideology-91261e985d3c
+
+https://twitter.com/MxBdUnicorn/status/1232169845011165184 "Hey cis ladies can you not?" (But if you were actually trying to be a woman, you'd be _interested_ in what they actually think, right?!)
+
+https://twitter.com/steve_shives/status/1233419627033694209
+https://archive.is/bqvvx
+> She wasn't complaining about cis men being allowed in a women's shelter. She was complaining about trans women being allowed in a women's shelter.
+
+Masterful obfuscation: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER6TomCW4AIfoNG?format=jpg&name=large
+
+Eric Raymond gets ousted from his own organization: http://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-discuss_lists.opensource.org/2020-February/thread.html
+
+https://medium.com/@kemenatan/its-just-a-fetish-right-91cb0a4e261
+https://archive.is/AAyxt
+
+https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER8fXJcXkAIn8G9?format=jpg&name=large
+
+
+> the people who produce the sort of media which fulfills the demand are themselves socio-demographically exactly like affluent white liberals (to give credit to Ta-Nehisi Coates, he is the exception). Ask yourself, when was the last time you read an op-ed or think-piece from an Indian convenience store clerk or a Bangladeshi cab driver? Almost always the op-eds and think-pieces come from professionals who likely experience the least "macro" aggression and the most "micro" aggression, and, who can speak the language of affluent white liberals and know exactly how to say the correct things
+> No working-class person says "white presenting." No immigrant says "white presenting." I have had friends in academia tell me that my children "present as white."
+https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/03/01/the-white-acting-mother-of-a-white-presenting-daughter/
+
+Vassar—
+> I sometimes say we need 'quantum witch-hunts' where we assess the 'witch quantum number' of a social interaction without declaring anyone to be a witch (because witchcraft is an enactive process, not something associated with individuals)
+
+Bar chart of sex diffs: https://twitter.com/jurijfedorov/status/1225214491744489474
+
+https://twitter.com/NateTreme/status/1234980122727288834
+
+Inheritance of consensus: https://traditionsofconflict.com/blog/2018/8/1/the-cause-of-illness
+
+https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/03/04/i-was-cancelled-for-my-tweets-on-transgenderism/
+
+California sex-ed curriculum: https://twitter.com/PeavyPosy/status/1235342626502647809
+
+hear this being thrown around: https://twitter.com/LaraAdamsMille1/status/1235391042406490114
+
+disanalogy of cis/trans to gay/straight: https://twitter.com/radicalhag/status/1235623170339672065
+
+"this is the existence the people that want me to be trans want for me" https://twitter.com/0xCAFEBEEF/status/1235595792481570816
+
+NRx koans: https://archive.is/rFDZA
+
+This is actually a pretty clear example of no-win prejudice: https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/fe9rp8/asking_if_its_okay_to_join_a_sub_when_you_are_not/ (if asked, assumed to be seeking validation—but what if they were actually trying to respect the boundary?)
+
+http://web.archive.org/web/20120717073425/http://www.james-g.com/
+
+You know, when a random Twitter person does it, it doesn't bother me much: https://twitter.com/ericlinuskaplan/status/1236740431427203073 It's specifically when it's impinging on rationalist-land that I'm at war.
+
+The motte-and-bailey: https://twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1236894909547724800
+
+alleged gender dysphoria from cis ppl taking hormones? read later (I doubt) https://twitter.com/BringerOfRot/status/1237018352360579072
+
+https://twitter.com/epsalon/status/1237833281631993856 YOU KNOW GODDAMNED WELL WHAT THEY MEANT
+
+Vancouver Rape Relief https://twitter.com/piscesgurl69/status/1236884846858752000
+
+> Intelligence is competence at winning games and leftism-as-intelligence is a set of strategies for winning games where the victory condition is majority consensus
+https://twitter.com/0x49fa98/status/1064256082506203137
+
+> It's like a newborn duck with wheels
+https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/ffprqc/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_of_march_09_2020/fk83n3k/
+
+it turns out to be surprisingly useful to model the world as being made out of three things: people (who can be friends, enemies, or strangers), evolved social-control mechanisms (which use people as components as well as trains, pieces of paper, credit cards, web forms, &c.), and rocks. Instead of taking the things that people say about the evolved social-control mechanisms literally with respect to what _you_ think the words mean, you should constantly be making predictions (preferably predictions that you can get feedback about on the timescale of seconds or minutes) about what will happen if you interact with the social-control mechanisms in a particular way, and then noticing if the predictions come true or not. It turns out that non-nerds—you know, those people we disdain for being stupid or sexist or voting for Donald Trump or whatever your favorite excuse is—already knew this; they just didn't tell you because they were—correctly—modeling you as a component in the evolved social-control mechanisms rather than as a person.
+
+https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1239013977146953728
+
+https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/shadow-boxing/201611/boys-dressed-girls-who-became-serial-killers
+
+https://medium.com/@catamphetamine/how-github-blocked-me-and-all-my-libraries-c32c61f061d3
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/fk5nxt/pregnant_people/fkqzthd/
+
+church-state https://twitter.com/0x49fa98/status/1212034852041699331
+
+kind of obsessive https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2020/03/fight-to-make-crosswords-more-inclusive/608212/
+https://slate.com/human-interest/2019/01/nyt-crossword-puzzle-ethnic-slur.html
+
+mourning MichFest: https://www.reddit.com/r/GCdebatesQT/comments/fkeqy6/question_for_gender_critical_people_and_why_not/fkto0xl/
+
+find a cite for FtM heart-attack risk
+
+Kathleen Stock https://quillette.com/2019/04/11/ignoring-differences-between-men-and-women-is-the-wrong-way-to-address-gender-dysphoria/
+
+the real strength of "be charitable to those you disagree with" is that it forces you to clarify your ideas in order to defend against every possible absurd misinterpretation
+
+I think my feelings for Jessica represent an interesting interaction of the conflict between sex and "gender": my high regard for her is happening because she passes so well that my brain is tagging her as a woman (and women who understand LessWrong stuff to that level are sacred and precious), but I don't feel creepy about so openly expressing it to her or others, because I'm less afraid of hurting her, because I expect that whatever anti-rape adaptation brainware women have (that result in strange males being labeled "creepy" threats) she ... probably just doesn't have it
+
+
+"Winning" arguments is uninteresting, _especially_ arguments about definitions. Everyone knows that the same word can be used in many ways depending on context. What _matters_ is learning about reality, and finding concepts and representations that make reality _less_ confusing rather than _more_ confusing. If, after thousands of words of argument, someone _still_ thinks a concept that I find useful should not be used because I can't provide explicit necessary-and-sufficient conditions to classify a series of ever-more obscure and contrived edge cases and "gotcha"s—or because [it hurts someone's feelings](/2018/Jan/dont-negotiate-with-terrorist-memeplexes/)—then I guess my response is to shrug and say, "Okay, whatever, I'll continue modeling reality using my concepts, and I wish you good luck trying to do the same with yours."
+
+[TODO: transition sentence about how the map is part of the territory]
+
+"from the merely naive to the dense to the outright vapid" insults violate a symmetry constraint
+
+non-rape gratitude https://twitter.com/Aella_Girl/status/1243595042557587456
+
+----
+
+Everyone wants to think they're an agent that's made an informed choice. And when the one comes to them and points out that they're the victim of a hostile memetic environment that's been conceptually gerrymandered to game them into making CRAZY choices for someone else's benefit, they take it personally. I certainly take it personally, and I want to learn how to stop.
+
+From the inside, you have free choice in the sense that you don't know what you're going to do until you've finished computing it. From the outside, you're a system that can be gamed.
+
+You're always going to be dominated by _someone's_ memeplex. The question is, if you knew more and thought faster, which parts of your current ideology would extrapolated-you construe as parasites, and which as symbiotes? You should, of course, be very suspicious of anyone who thinks they already know the answer. But perhaps it should not be seen as such a incursion to suggest that the answer may surprise you!
+
+----
+
+(Note the clarifying edit Alexander added at the bottom of the post, albeit only after I [threatened to escalate the civil war in our robot cult and spent Christmas Day yelling at him about it](https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/bSmgPNS6MTJsunTzS/maybe-lying-doesn-t-exist/comment/xEan6oCQFDzWKApt7). I'm not proud of my social behavior here, but when everyone you used to trust is seemingly insistent on selectively playing dumb about their own philosophy of language in a way that's optimized to trick you into cutting your dick off (independently of the empirical facts that determine whether cutting your dick off is a good idea), you tend to get desperate.)
+
+----
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/dy7241/peak_trans_x_tell_your_story_here/fmg5eps/
+
+https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16488877
+> independent of the masculinizing effects of gonadal secretions, XY and XX brain cells have different patterns of gene expression that influence their differentiation and function
+
+Don't speak truth to power. Speak truth against your incentive gradient. I mean, _try_ to do that. You can't _literally_ do that, because you're _always_ following your incentive gradient, by definition. Speak truth against your _current model_ of your incentive gradient.
+
+----
+
+Theorem: when you strike at a king, you must kill him. (Credit assignment: Ralph Waldo Emerson.)
+
+My restatement (yours may be different, but still): when you strike at the God-Empress—well, striking at the God-Empress wouldn't work. But when you strike at one of the God-Empress's minions, you have to either kill him or provide sufficiently strong evidence that you could kill him if you wanted.
+
+give sex denialists an inch, and they'll redefine the inch to be a mile
+
+"I had never settled on a form": https://i.redd.it/ygbkj3ock6x31.jpg General factor of ETLE?
+
+https://dsh.fyi/posts/2020-04-14-im-trans-call-me-daisy/
+
+"gender modality" https://www.florenceashley.com/academic-publications.html
+
+I'm not usually—at least, not always—so much of a scrub as to play chess with a pigeon (which shits on the board and then struts around like it's won), or wrestle with a pig (which gets you both dirty, and the pig likes it), or dispute what the Tortise said to Achilles
+
+https://www.jehsmith.com/1/2019/12/are-cows-adult-bovine-females.html
+https://www.jehsmith.com/1/2020/01/gendered-animal-names-a-postscript.html
+
+marketing opportunity: https://www.peaktrans.org/contact/
+
+https://web.archive.org/web/20160406094634/http://mariacatt.com/2016/03/31/the-adult-baby-story/
+
+> If you want to change a culture, think in terms of the evolutionary aspects of it. You might be able to do it by just shaking things up and letting it slide into a new equilibrium, but this only works if there's an equilibrium where you want to be. Fighting the adaptation pressure is a losing game. —https://notebook.drmaciver.com/posts/2020-02-28-06:33.html
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/g4mse5/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_of_april_20_2020/fo0oug1/
+> a higher proportion of millionaires (5%) than women (4.9%). In addition, the proportion who want to have more than 4 children in the end (13.5%) is greater than the proportion who currently have more than 0 (13.3%)
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