https://www.unz.com/isteve/post-gay-marriage-cont/
"Dodging learning people's deadnames like some sort of willfully ignorant ninja." https://twitter.com/yaahc_/status/1222542847322099713
+
+https://westhunt.wordpress.com/2013/08/31/it-must-be-said/
+
+the people you're afraid of aren't going to read a blog whose URL is _unremediatedgender.space_
+
+[Felix Conrad](http://transcendmovement.com/felix-conrad-confesses-that-he-secretly-believes-in-autogynephilia/)—
+
+[link is dead, but it's allegedly in his Kindle book]
+
+> Imagine the following scenario: a researcher discovers that one ethnic group has a lower IQ than another and that the cause is genetic–not educational. In my opinion that research is as dangerous as a toxic virus and I’d wipe any hard drive that contained such research. That is intellectual integrity in my opinion.
+
+Protip: you don't have to preemptively commit suicide! Wait for other people to kill you instead! (Desired privacy settings for this update: people smart enough to understand metaphors.)
+
+"how did you realize you were non-binary": https://twitter.com/QueerGirlEmilie/status/1225517017035350016
+
+religious affiliation is shared environment https://twitter.com/ent3c/status/1161717179802443778
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/f1nedr/tims_bragging_in_female_weight_lifting_subs/
+
+during a Feb 2020 discussion of salary transparency: "For those of you telling me I make too much: [...] I'm one of the top women in my role." https://twitter.com/theavalkyrie/status/1228528673726140416 She transitioned in May 2018!! (https://blog.thea.codes/i-am-thea) Last year's taxable income: $360k https://twitter.com/theavalkyrie/status/1228457455350235137
+
+> prairie dogs are not a type of dog and guinea pigs are not a type of pig https://www.reddit.com/r/GCdebatesQT/comments/f4dmsf/all_for_those_who_find_the_term_cis_offensive_how/fhqah6k/
+
+> The function of 'trans' in that term is to indicate that they're not actually a type of woman.
+>
+> Compare: counterfeit money, toy gun, soy milk, glass pearls, veggie meat, faux fur https://www.reddit.com/r/GCdebatesQT/comments/f4dmsf/all_for_those_who_find_the_term_cis_offensive_how/fhpxjx0/
+
+"privative adjective": http://www.cogsci.ucsd.edu/~coulson/Fake/fakeguns.htm
+
+> Long story short, I was pro-trans until I had exposure to actual trans people. Then the wrongthink started creeping in: wow, this looks an awful lot like a social contagion and wow, this looks an awful lot like a homophobic fetish and wow, this looks an awful lot like lesbian self-erasure and wow, this looks an awful lot like a protracted exercise in medically-assisted self harm. https://www.reddit.com/r/GCdebatesQT/comments/f1finv/formerly_qt_supporters_who_are_now_gc_what_made/fh5tzj5/
+
+> being a trans woman is 10% war on hair & 90% coming to terms w the fact that wanting tits ultimately led to u joining an anti nazi coalition
+https://twitter.com/avaavita/status/908416401312018433
+
+http://www.generation-online.org/c/fcbiopolitics2.htm
+
+selection effect: "TERFs never pass" https://www.reddit.com/r/GCdebatesQT/comments/emgk0t/to_qt_a_solution_to_trans_in_sports/fdyj2wl/
+
+https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/female-prisoner-takes-government-to-court-after-alleged-assault-by-transgender-inmate-n5wtg2nf7
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/itsafetish/comments/e8qa7x/im_just_scared_that_if_i_cum_ill_think_im_not/
+
+> If you are angry or think it's "unfair" for a trans girl to beat a cis girl in a sporting event then fundamentally you don’t think trans girls are "real" girls. It’s that simple. [Bullet-biters in both camps agree!] https://twitter.com/chasestrangio/status/1229407118119391234
+
+> Never mind that, for instance, a recent employment tribunal decision in the UK directly contradicts them by stating that an absolutist belief in immutable and binary sex is incompatible with the human dignity and rights of others. https://medium.com/@KatjaT/a-pinch-of-expertise-plus-a-ton-of-speculation-a85684120160
+
+nostalgia: https://queersingularity.wordpress.com/2010/06/23/with-regards-to-the-gender-question-i-advise-feminist-revolution/
+
+-----
+
+but notably, the debate is "played-out" _not_ because anyone has pinned down a decisive flaw in my _extremely modest_ core philosophical claims (which do _not_ immediately imply any particular policy position about trans issues, but would be _relevant_ for _figuring out_ the optimal social policy, which I explicitly claim not to have done), but because I'm thinking sufficiently outside of the _Zeitgeist_ that I can't be allowed to win arguments in public—"They will form a united front and gaslight you," as Ziz put it (<https://sinceriously.fyi/social-reality/>)
+
+_Extremely modest_ core claim: cognitively useful categories need non-circular truth conditions that make predictions about many observations (meta-level version: <https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/esRZaPXSHgWzyB2NL/where-to-draw-the-boundaries>, object-level version: <http://unremediatedgender.space/2018/Feb/the-categories-were-made-for-man-to-make-predictions/>); the only serious reason _not_ to do this is to make coordination earlier (meta-level version: <https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/edEXi4SpkXfvaX42j/schelling-categories-and-simple-membership-tests>, object-level version: <http://unremediatedgender.space/2019/Oct/self-identity-is-a-schelling-point/>), but "this shared category makes coordination easier" is a _very different_ rationale from "this shared category makes people happier directly", which I claim is "wireheading" from an AI-design perspective, and you would expect a different _rationale_ to imply different decisions even in advance of having worked out exactly what those decisions should be
+
+I sometimes get sloppy and angry in real-time discussions (I'm a _lot_ smarter in asynchronous media) in a way that I often regret, but I think it should be sympathetic and understandable that it would be extremely frustrating when you put in a _lot_ of work over _many_ months spelling all this out at the length of many thousands of words, _and_ responding to critics (<http://unremediatedgender.space/tag/ozy/>), and discovering that it mostly just ... doesn't matter, because the _Zeitgeist_ is just not responsive to careful philosophical arguments
+
+okay, I still need to write another multi-thousand word post (again, probably two posts) explaining the "wireheading" claim
+
+_that's_ probably my problem; I need to write two more blog posts
+
+then, everyone will understand
+
+-----
+
+19 February, the kid reportedly said, "I'll put a piglet in my salad because I want to kill lots of animals." None of the grownups construed this as a reversal of the earlier vegetarianism claim, because none of the grownups took the earlier claim seriously.
+
+1 March: "When i grow up i'm gonna eat pigs."
+
+14 March: "I'm a pterodactyl dragon."
+
+-----
+
+smart fascism—
+> Cops don't spend a lot of resources prioritizing "drugs" as such. They face political pressure to deal with violence and property crime, which has clear intersections with drug activity. They'll use drug charges opportunistically to deal with people they want to get off the street, but the bulk of police activity is stuff I want to see enforced, against people I want to see incarcerated.
+https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/f6zuip/whats_the_most_controversial_opinion_that_you/fi90y07/
+> city administrations and law enforcement see things like minor drug charges as a way to harass people they want off the street for other reasons
+https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/f6zuip/whats_the_most_controversial_opinion_that_you/fibxyxl/
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/f7sn2o/no_matter_how_feminine_they_want_to_pose_the_most/
+
+> the social justice mentality being as much a regular expression search as it is an ideology
+https://twitter.com/GabrielRossman/status/1229461398247198720
+
+https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/NiceJobBreakingItHero is a religious deconversion trope
+
+----
+
+A mother I know jokes—
+
+> I'm gonna go ahead and buy underwear
+> does he happen to have a preference between briefs or boxer briefs
+> why is underwear so gender
+> "what's in your pants" "gender" "but -" "bought some gender off amazon"
+
+But, flies are actually functional.
+
+---
+
+in "memetics"/"social-control monkey warfare" world, there is no progresss; there is no citations; people just have the same argument over and over again, and whichever egregore has the most bodies and the most volume steamrolls the opposition into accepting their version of social reality
+
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/GCdebatesQT/comments/dxtgh7/qt_do_you_encourage_other_trans_redditors_to_come/f7wng98/
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/dy7241/peak_trans_x_tell_your_story_here/filh1fn/
+
+
+https://twitter.com/RichardDawkins/status/1229060502984306689
+> For those determined to miss the point, I deplore the idea of a eugenic policy. I simply said deploring it doesn’t mean it wouldn’t work. Just as we breed cows to yield more milk, we could breed humans to run faster or jump higher. But heaven forbid that we should do it.
+
+> While a limited form of selection in humans is acceptable—for example, preventing a couple who are carriers of a recessive genetic defect or disease from producing an offspring with that condition—the kind of wholesale and directed selective breeding of humans suggested by the word “eugenics” is immoral, and I don’t favor it at all.
+https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2020/02/20/discovery-institute-makes-hay-of-dawkins-tweet-and-a-geneticist-mistakenly-says-that-artificial-selection-wont-work-in-humans/
+
+> I hold eugenics to be completely immoral and we should not attempt to implement it.
+https://twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1229890352275955713
+
+> "We must be guided by solidarity, not stigma," the director general of the World Health Organization warned on Saturday. "The greatest enemy we face is not the virus itself; it’s the stigma that turns us against each other."
+https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1229832977472946184
+https://archive.is/1pQ4p
+
+https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1230577418559270913
+
+coronavirus, Elizabeth Warren
+
+https://quillette.com/2020/02/02/i-may-have-gender-dysphoria-but-i-still-prefer-to-base-my-life-on-biology-not-fantasy/
+
+> Trans athletes are not a threat. We need to protect trans kids—and all LGBTQ+ kids—and ensure they feel safe and welcomed at school. I urge the Arizona legislature to reject this cruel bill.
+
+get ahead on perscriptions
+
+https://www.edge.org/response-detail/26714
+
+> It is easier to work in the service industry than to live as a trans woman who can't pass.
+https://twitter.com/GlamDamorous/status/1231985917633548305
+
+https://medium.com/@evakurilova/what-a-chinese-idiom-tells-us-about-gender-identity-ideology-91261e985d3c
+
+https://twitter.com/MxBdUnicorn/status/1232169845011165184 "Hey cis ladies can you not?" (But if you were actually trying to be a woman, you'd be _interested_ in what they actually think, right?!)
+
+https://twitter.com/steve_shives/status/1233419627033694209
+https://archive.is/bqvvx
+> She wasn't complaining about cis men being allowed in a women's shelter. She was complaining about trans women being allowed in a women's shelter.
+
+Masterful obfuscation: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER6TomCW4AIfoNG?format=jpg&name=large
+
+Eric Raymond gets ousted from his own organization: http://lists.opensource.org/pipermail/license-discuss_lists.opensource.org/2020-February/thread.html
+
+https://medium.com/@kemenatan/its-just-a-fetish-right-91cb0a4e261
+https://archive.is/AAyxt
+
+https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ER8fXJcXkAIn8G9?format=jpg&name=large
+
+
+> the people who produce the sort of media which fulfills the demand are themselves socio-demographically exactly like affluent white liberals (to give credit to Ta-Nehisi Coates, he is the exception). Ask yourself, when was the last time you read an op-ed or think-piece from an Indian convenience store clerk or a Bangladeshi cab driver? Almost always the op-eds and think-pieces come from professionals who likely experience the least "macro" aggression and the most "micro" aggression, and, who can speak the language of affluent white liberals and know exactly how to say the correct things
+> No working-class person says "white presenting." No immigrant says "white presenting." I have had friends in academia tell me that my children "present as white."
+https://www.brownpundits.com/2020/03/01/the-white-acting-mother-of-a-white-presenting-daughter/
+
+Vassar—
+> I sometimes say we need 'quantum witch-hunts' where we assess the 'witch quantum number' of a social interaction without declaring anyone to be a witch (because witchcraft is an enactive process, not something associated with individuals)
+
+Bar chart of sex diffs: https://twitter.com/jurijfedorov/status/1225214491744489474
+
+https://twitter.com/NateTreme/status/1234980122727288834
+
+Inheritance of consensus: https://traditionsofconflict.com/blog/2018/8/1/the-cause-of-illness
+
+https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/03/04/i-was-cancelled-for-my-tweets-on-transgenderism/
+
+California sex-ed curriculum: https://twitter.com/PeavyPosy/status/1235342626502647809
+
+hear this being thrown around: https://twitter.com/LaraAdamsMille1/status/1235391042406490114
+
+disanalogy of cis/trans to gay/straight: https://twitter.com/radicalhag/status/1235623170339672065
+
+"this is the existence the people that want me to be trans want for me" https://twitter.com/0xCAFEBEEF/status/1235595792481570816
+
+NRx koans: https://archive.is/rFDZA
+
+This is actually a pretty clear example of no-win prejudice: https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/fe9rp8/asking_if_its_okay_to_join_a_sub_when_you_are_not/ (if asked, assumed to be seeking validation—but what if they were actually trying to respect the boundary?)
+
+http://web.archive.org/web/20120717073425/http://www.james-g.com/
+
+You know, when a random Twitter person does it, it doesn't bother me much: https://twitter.com/ericlinuskaplan/status/1236740431427203073 It's specifically when it's impinging on rationalist-land that I'm at war.
+
+The motte-and-bailey: https://twitter.com/SwipeWright/status/1236894909547724800
+
+alleged gender dysphoria from cis ppl taking hormones? read later (I doubt) https://twitter.com/BringerOfRot/status/1237018352360579072
+
+https://twitter.com/epsalon/status/1237833281631993856 YOU KNOW GODDAMNED WELL WHAT THEY MEANT
+
+Vancouver Rape Relief https://twitter.com/piscesgurl69/status/1236884846858752000
+
+> Intelligence is competence at winning games and leftism-as-intelligence is a set of strategies for winning games where the victory condition is majority consensus
+https://twitter.com/0x49fa98/status/1064256082506203137
+
+> It's like a newborn duck with wheels
+https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMotte/comments/ffprqc/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_of_march_09_2020/fk83n3k/
+
+it turns out to be surprisingly useful to model the world as being made out of three things: people (who can be friends, enemies, or strangers), evolved social-control mechanisms (which use people as components as well as trains, pieces of paper, credit cards, web forms, &c.), and rocks. Instead of taking the things that people say about the evolved social-control mechanisms literally with respect to what _you_ think the words mean, you should constantly be making predictions (preferably predictions that you can get feedback about on the timescale of seconds or minutes) about what will happen if you interact with the social-control mechanisms in a particular way, and then noticing if the predictions come true or not. It turns out that non-nerds—you know, those people we disdain for being stupid or sexist or voting for Donald Trump or whatever your favorite excuse is—already knew this; they just didn't tell you because they were—correctly—modeling you as a component in the evolved social-control mechanisms rather than as a person.
+
+https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1239013977146953728
+
+https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/shadow-boxing/201611/boys-dressed-girls-who-became-serial-killers
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