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@@ -165,6 +165,7 @@ body measurements dist'ns http://anthro.cs.uni-freiburg.de/#colx=100&coly=6
 
 same-sex couples do less assortative mating! https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2843104/
 
+
 On Mar 4, 2017 3:23 PM, "Zack M. Davis" <main@zackmdavis.net> wrote:
 
     Genocide is murder of a class of people. Can you be more specific about the class of people you see being murdered (nerdy men?) and what you think is murdering them (the political-correctness memeplex that evolved as a social-control mechanism to prevent the United States from becoming Yugoslavia)?
@@ -612,6 +613,10 @@ the recording here also has stop-recording exchange: https://gendertrender.wordp
 
 Blanchard on the record about "homosexual" terminology: https://twitter.com/BlanchardPhD/status/999680624817508352
 
+no one remembers pronouns: https://twitter.com/BlanchardPhD/status/1060563648027021314
+
+https://twitter.com/RachelRMoran/status/1060311474780946432
+
 http://abc30.com/homeless-women-harassed-in-shower-lawsuit-says/3514544/
 
 https://medium.com/@maybekatz/on-the-design-of-womens-spaces-72bf8f396dc0
@@ -647,6 +652,7 @@ https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/991707514294194176.html
 https://mashable.com/2018/06/23/charlotte-clymer-twitter-thread-cuba-libre/#HzX3Kmpl3PqB
 https://www.metroweekly.com/2018/06/transgender-woman-says-she-was-kicked-out-of-popular-d-c-restaurant-for-using-womens-restroom/
 https://twitter.com/ChelseaClinton/status/1010596357093117953
+https://twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1060699882506383360
 
 "It’s officially impossible to find regular real lesbians unless you happen to stumble upon them in the wild ..."
 https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/8mahdy/peak_trans_vii_tell_your_story_here/e1jtuqz/
@@ -717,3 +723,207 @@ AGP-motivated radfem alignment https://twitter.com/michaelbeltis/status/10320423
 
 Moldbug's deep rhetorical game: https://theotherlifenow.com/bear-traps/
 
+when social-justice people say that language is "outdated", do they have an idea of what changed? There may be an uncomfortable analogy here to programmers who want to insist on the latest version of everything even when the old stuff still works!
+
+https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/evkwm4/how-to-be-an-ally-to-non-binary-gender-non-conforming-people-support
+
+https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inoculation_theory
+
+----
+
+Extracted from one of my SEXNET posts—
+
+Unrelatedly, Beck et al. note in passing a fascinating finding that I think deserves more examination:
+
+> Gender portrayal seems to vary based on target audience. In genres and channels targeting boys, girls are more likely to be depicted as smarter, less emotional, and more technically savvy (Baker & Raney, 2007; Gerding and & Signorielli, 2014; Thompson & Zerbinos, 1995). Conversely, genres and channels targeting girl viewers depict boys as more emotional and affectionate than do boy-oriented media (Aubrey & Harrison, 2004; Hentges & Case, 2013).
+
+The authors go on to state that "[i]n sum, children's media reinforce gender role binaries and suggest that our culture values strictly delineated gender roles." But left unexplained is why a culture that values strictly delineated gender roles would optimize for portraying girls with masculine-coded virtues in boys' media and boys with feminine-coded virtues in girls' media. (An alternative theory that does predict this particular datum is that media producers are incentivized to cater to children's egocentric fantasies of the other sex's psychology being more like their own ...)
+
+
+-----
+
+Extracted from reply to Ozy on categories—
+
+> Conversely, as far as I can tell, there has yet to be a single transgender NFL football player, while statistically there ought to be five currently playing.
+
+A side note, but—this doesn't actually seem hard to explain. If the ought-to-be-five means MtFs, well, you _can't_ transition MtF and _stay_ in the NFL—HRT is going to kill your performance. Even if you think the effect size of hormones is overhyped, this is a _very_ competitive area, you can't say, "Oh, it only affected performance like ten percent, that's nothing—ten percent is _huge_." This doesn't rule out Jenner-class eggs in the NFL.
+
+And if it means FtMs, well, people get into football as teenagers: there are going to be structural reasons making that difficult even if gynephilic FtMs _are_ the sort of people who would like to play (difficulty of transitioning _that_ early _and_ being stealthy about it, and difficulty of being accepted as one of the guys if you're not stealthy—let alone NFL/NCAA policy about steroid use, if the matter has even come up, which is probably hasn't)
+
+The tone of the video news report here makes me nervous (_deception_ is a crime, but the fetish itself shouldn't disqualify him from being a _crossing guard_) https://www.abc15.com/news/crime/pd-gilbert-man-fakes-down-syndrome-hires-caregivers-to-bathe-him-and-change-diapers
+
+This is basically the _Quillette_ article that I wanted to write: https://quillette.com/2018/09/12/stereotypes-are-often-harmful-and-accurate/
+
+https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ijop.12529
+
+https://lesbian-rights-nz.org/shame-receipts/
+
+Has someone done the game-theoretic microfoundations of radical feminism?
+
+another ROGD referral graph: https://twitter.com/LavenderVerse/status/1042573498592501763
+
+https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/unisex-changing-rooms-put-women-in-danger-8lwbp8kgk
+
+CoC thread (I donated $10 to the author for this): https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1041668315947708416.html
+https://mobile.twitter.com/unconed/status/1045325718056554498
+
+https://metro.co.uk/2018/09/19/transgender-teen-to-admit-murdering-parents-who-refused-to-accept-her-transition-7960036/
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/GenderCritical/comments/8mahdy/peak_trans_vii_tell_your_story_here/e69oh83/
+
+dystopia where all women call themselves nonbinary and men call themselves trans women
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/9ejzkm/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_of_september_10/e64jjos/?context=3&sort=best
+
+https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Transgender-woman-in-San-Antonio-files-13244056.php?utm_campaign=twitter-mobile&utm_source=CMS%20Sharing%20Button&utm_medium=social  "male or female gender should be self-identified and self-reported for the purpose of blood donation"
+
+https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2018/09/how-i-was-hounded-off-campus-for-saying-women-dont-have-penises/
+
+https://www.econlib.org/you-dont-understand-our-culture/
+
+https://twitter.com/tvandreacross/status/1043603304763351041 made me wonder why I haven't heard "Make it easier to get a GRC, but revoke it as part of the penalty for crimes, especially sex crimes" proposed as a compromise
+
+WTF _Nature_ redux https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-06784-5?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nature%2Frss%2Fcurrent+%28Nature+-+Issue%29
+
+https://law.justia.com/cases/california/court-of-appeal/2017/b263563.html
+
+https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesCantorPhD/status/1012722559874486272
+
+Damore is working again https://twitter.com/JamesADamore/status/1034623633174478849
+
+HSTS doesn't like being asked pronouns https://twitter.com/Kinesis/status/1046485034113220608
+
+Numbers 31:15–18
+
+וַיֹּאמֶר אֲלֵיהֶם מֹשֶׁה הַֽחִיִּיתֶם כָּל־נְקֵבָֽה׃ 
+
+"Have you allowed all the women to live?" he asked them.
+
+
+ וְעַתָּה הִרְגוּ כָל־זָכָר בַּטָּף וְכָל־אִשָּׁה יֹדַעַת אִישׁ לְמִשְׁכַּב זָכָר הֲרֹֽגוּ
+
+Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,
+
+
+ וְכֹל הַטַּף בַּנָּשִׁים אֲשֶׁר לֹא־יָדְעוּ מִשְׁכַּב זָכָר הַחֲיוּ לָכֶֽם
+
+but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
+
+
+What actual women are like vs. feminist power fantasy: https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/8tpcyn/culture_war_roundup_for_the_week_of_june_25_2018/e1f67ky/
+https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2013/08/i-hate-strong-female-characters
+
+reading the famous Flight 93 essay and coming across a scare-quoted "cis-genderism", I want to say, "You mean _cisnormativity_"
+
+my insufficiently-requited love retweeted this: https://twitter.com/EscapologistFi/status/1052650770624118785
+
+http://www.jbhe.com/features/53_SAT.html
+
+Singal on pediatrics society statement: https://twitter.com/jessesingal/status/1052939041069588480 (follow-up for critique of Ozy on ROGD!!!)
+
+https://twitter.com/rachelvmckinnon/status/1053633641161678848
+
+Rachel McKinnon documents say she's a woman https://archive.is/PWmOP https://twitter.com/rachelvmckinnon/status/1053633641161678848
+Rachel McKinnon on her opponents making gender-identity https://archive.is/mmhwU
+
+https://doesnthavetobethisway.wordpress.com/2014/07/19/nametags-pronouns-and-lifting-the-burden/
+
+EUGENICS https://www.wired.com/story/pinterest-skin-tone-search/?fbclid=IwAR27gG2-MZOuYjRBxcZCGK2J4x9rEcrD6rM-8W8H37b5GS5UWJnZEqffUjI
+
+Request for social technology: again, we really need to do something about the problem where civil-and-charitable discourse culture tends to degenerate into "I accept a belief from you, if you accept a belief from me" social exchange, which rewards dogmatic incumbents. (Submissive people trying to be charitable think, "The incumbent didn't respond to my argument! Maybe I'm wrong!" when maybe they should be less submissive and instead think, "The incumbent is being willfully stupid! No update!") So, we know that personal character attacks are bad and need to be quashed. But maybe "arrogance and contempt towards worldviews which I claim have bugs in addition to their already well-known features" is OK? We know that argument NEVER gets bullet. We know that argument NEVER gets personal attack. But a lot of people seem to think that if argument doesn't get counterargument, that means that argument wins. And that's not right! Maybe sometimes argument deserves, "No update, no time to explain; I falsifiably predict that you'll thank me later." Sometimes this prediction will be wrong! But sometimes it will come true eight years later!
+
+("And he cried out, one last cry under the consciousness of Odeen, except that somehow it was the cry of Dua. 'No, we can't stop the market. We are the market. We—'")
+
+"Transsexualism is primarily a type of individual psychopathology. It secondarily acquires the properties of a political or religious movement when individual transsexuals form up into networks."— https://twitter.com/BlanchardPhD/status/1056219179399962631
+
+https://www.essence.com/news/16-year-old-black-teen-tells-dr-phil-shes-white-and-hates-black-people/
+
+https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/10/30/transgender-woman-gets-18-month-sentence-for-sexually-assaulting-daughter.html
+
+https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/trans-man-sauna/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
+
+https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-018-07238-8
+
+more Yearwood: https://abcnews.go.com/US/transgender-teens-outrun-track-field-competitors-critics-close/story?id=55856294
+
+https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6179341/Outrage-transgender-child-groomer-legally-female-womens-jail.html
+
+https://www.wweek.com/news/2018/11/07/a-transgender-powells-employee-says-the-bookstore-refused-to-designate-a-gender-neutral-restroom-in-its-corporate-office/
+
+HSTS typology-discovering narrative: https://twitter.com/Kinesis/status/1060452237967675392
+
+https://m.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/UC-Berkeley-campus-senator-abstains-from-a-vote-13378621.php?t=bd81bb94a4#photo-16472734
+
+https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/drunken-transgender-women-stamp-defenceless-13566104
+
+https://truethingsiwishicouldsay.tumblr.com/post/179846906643/this-is-the-new-queer-compulsory-heterosexuality
+
+https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/midwives-rail-against-proposal-to-call-women-persons-in-new-code-of-conduct/news-story/0c3b37b55934effcfc48498b64a1256f
+
+skeleton sex denialism: https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/575536/
+
+medical records: https://twitter.com/HairyLeggdHarpy/status/1062360988702466048
+
+https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7724502/cop-child-sex-offences-woman/amp/
+
+https://janeclarejones.com/2018/11/13/the-annals-of-the-terf-wars/
+
+http://academicrightswatch.com/?p=2871
+
+https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/canadian-man-claiming-to-be-female-sues-16-women-for-refusing-to-wax-his-ge
+
+Marcus points out that out the "balls-at-12" 5-alpha-reductase people
+
+intersex stats: https://twitter.com/mrkhtake2/status/1063454985147613187
+
+----
+
+unused /r/slatestarcodex comment fodder—
+
+More generally, I'm not sure what to do about the problem of how to _break out_ of the existing Culture War narratives, when you think the reigning narrative is wrong and that you have a better one. The immortal Robin Hanson writes that if you want to make an outsized difference in debates, you sould [pull in a direction that few others are in the high-dimensional policyspace](http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/05/policy_tugowar.html), but I worry that this model overlooks certain difficulties in _marketing_. If you don't want to join the "trans dykes are good and pure; maximize the number of trans people" coalition _or_ the "trans-identified males are bad men; minimize the number of trans people" coalition, the typical reaction is _not_ that people rally around your [third alternative](https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/erGipespbbzdG5zYb/the-third-alternative) in the orthogonal direction, but rather: "Good God you're a fucking unicorn."
+
+Well, I _guess_. But then what's a unicorn to do? I feel _guilty_ about posting too many variants of the same "read [Anne Lawrence](http://www.annelawrence.com/autogynephilia_&_MtF_typology.html)!" comment whenever trans issues come up in the Culture War thread—it feels too repetitive, too agenda-driven. But _given_ an agenda (people should be aware of the true nature of late-onset gender dysphoria in males so that they can use the knowledge to make better decisions, even if I'm not wise enough to specify in advance what those decisions should be) and wanting to pursue that agenda in good-faith and with an absolute minimum of war,
+
+----
+
+Ideally, the Watsonian and Doylist views should be consilient (social-justice people have a Doylist view of Damore et al. as trying to justify male privilige; Scott Alexander et al. have a Doylist view of social-justice as being about victimhood competition)
+
+deep learning can sex your retina: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41551-018-0195-0
+
+http://www.womaninterruptedapp.com/en/
+
+https://twitter.com/plantkid_/status/1065016189980721152
+
+https://medium.com/the-establishment/dont-judge-a-girl-for-what-s-between-her-legs-24f6b6c8cc6
+
+how come I've never heard of this Hogancamp guy on Trans Day of Rememberance? oh, right, AGP erasure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marwencol
+
+read later: https://medium.com/@juliaserano/refusing-to-tolerate-intolerance-f24c1bff513f
+
+https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/2012-11-15/online-paedophile-jailed-for-14-years/
+
+http://valleywag.gawker.com/twitter-engineer-dana-mccallum-pled-guilty-to-two-misde-1643207780
+
+https://www.philpercs.com/2016/02/autogynephilia-a-critique-and-personal-narrative.html
+
+https://medium.com/@Betsulimo/i-was-one-of-the-transactivists-on-the-channel-4-documentary-i-regret-what-i-did-this-is-why-7e12350ab6d3
+
+https://www.reddit.com/r/itsafetish/
+
+https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2018/11/30/36431918/if-the-future-is-nonbinary-its-a-bleak-one-for-women
+
+"Obviously I socially gender him as male as per his preference."
+
+"I wouldn't call it a 'preference' exactly."
+
+"I gender him male as per his philosophical commitments"
+
+https://www.theverge.com/2014/4/28/5661118/lab-mice-fear-men-not-women-big-problem-for-science
+
+Mad Ouroboros on the Somewhere Else Discord speculates that "don't call me cis" gendercrits and AFAB enbies are having the same internal gender experience
+
+CAIS in sport: https://twitter.com/FondOfBeetles/status/1070097483408248835
+
+the evolutionarily ancient process of noticing secondary sex characteristics is less legitimate than "Because I said so"
+
+https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/zmynd9/stop-gendering-your-baby?utm_campaign=sharebutton