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-Incidents to Include—
+Marketing—

 
 

-Done(ish)—
-✓ "Failed Utopia 4-2" 
-✓ "Changing Emotions"
+To LW—

 
 

-Easy—
-* love of a man for a woman, and vice versa as separate fragments of value
-* Psychological Unity of Humankind is only up to sex
+_(content warning sexism)_  
+_(content warning transphobia)_  
+_(content warning too much information about weird fetishes)_  
+_(content warning WTF did I just read)_  
+
+(November 2020, [TODO] words)
+
+----
+
+On Twitter—

 
 

+WTF transphobic garbage did I just read?? Too bad Yudkowsky can't control how creepy randos on the internet interpret his work ...
+
+-----
+
+To SneerClub—
+
+Hi SneerClub! I noticed that you've enjoyed some of my [previous](https://www.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/fw9cng/the_lgbt_activist_machinery_instead_adapted/) [work](https://www.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/61t94y/rationalist_tries_justifying_their_transphobia_by/), so I thought I would go ahead and proactively share this one with you, because (I'm guessing) it probably checks a lot of the boxes for top sneerable content: it's got Yudkowsky hero-worship, _and_ sexism (as many of you would define that), _and_ transphobia (as many of you would define that), _and_ weird sex stuff!
+
+(From _my_ perspective, I'm pouring my heart out about the most important thing in my life, but if someone else with a different perspective would only sneer, then I can only hope to have been—if only for a moment, as part of a subroutine in the optimal sneer computation—_understood_. And for that moment, I am grateful.)

 
 

+
+-----
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+Points to work in—

 * Superhappies empathic inference for not wanting to believe girls were different
 * Superhappies empathic inference for not wanting to believe girls were different

+https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/qCsxiojX7BSLuuBgQ/the-super-happy-people-3-8

 * "The Opposite Sex" https://web.archive.org/web/20130216025508/http://lesswrong.com/lw/rp/the_opposite_sex/
 * EY was right about "men need to think about themselves _as men_" (find cite)
 * Vassar slapping me down
 * "Mr. Davis"
 * "The Opposite Sex" https://web.archive.org/web/20130216025508/http://lesswrong.com/lw/rp/the_opposite_sex/
 * EY was right about "men need to think about themselves _as men_" (find cite)
 * Vassar slapping me down
 * "Mr. Davis"

-* I'm not actually very good at first-person visualization, which demonstrates something
+* Faster Than Science, Transgender Edition (prior draft)
+* "I often wish some men/women would appreciate"
+* empathic inference: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/NLMo5FZWFFq652MNe/sympathetic-minds https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Zkzzjg3h7hW5Z36hK/humans-in-funny-suits https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/9fpWoXpNv83BAHJdc/the-comedy-of-behaviorism

 * study evidence that this is actually common
 * AGPs dating each other is the analogue of "Failed Utopia 4-2"!!
 * study evidence that this is actually common
 * AGPs dating each other is the analogue of "Failed Utopia 4-2"!!

+* wipe culturally defined values
+* finding things in the refrigerator
+*  https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/FBgozHEv7J72NCEPB/my-way https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/xsyG7PkMekHud2DMK/of-gender-and-rationality

 
 

+-----

 
 

-Harder—
-* Faster Than Science, Transgender Edition (prior draft)
-* "I often wish some men/women would appreciate"
-* empathic inference: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/NLMo5FZWFFq652MNe/sympathetic-minds https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Zkzzjg3h7hW5Z36hK/humans-in-funny-suits https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/9fpWoXpNv83BAHJdc/the-comedy-of-behaviorism
+Outline for remaining Coda—
+ * you can doubt someone's theory without doubting their report-as-data
+ * what "as a first approximation" means in causal graphs
+ * people have a political incentive to deny, but I'm making a fact-claim
+ * I would have expected the "rationalists" to be interested in getting the right answer (quote the "20% of the ones with penises" Facebook post), but it doesn't look like that's happening
+
+
+-----

 
 "different thing that I don't understand" /2019/Jan/interlude-xvi/
 
 
 "different thing that I don't understand" /2019/Jan/interlude-xvi/
 

-* wipe culturally defined values
-* finding things in the refrigerator
-*  https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/FBgozHEv7J72NCEPB/my-way https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/xsyG7PkMekHud2DMK/of-gender-and-rationality

 
 Be careful to phrase the early part as about _me_, and only point fingers at trans women in the coda
 
 
 Be careful to phrase the early part as about _me_, and only point fingers at trans women in the coda
 


@@ -62,7 +88,6 @@ learned things in the wrong order
 
 Anyway, I kind of spent the next ten years reading everything I could about sex and gender and transgender and feminism and evopsych and doing various things with my social presentation—sometimes things I regretted and reverted after a lot of pain—to try to seem not-masculine,
 
 
 Anyway, I kind of spent the next ten years reading everything I could about sex and gender and transgender and feminism and evopsych and doing various things with my social presentation—sometimes things I regretted and reverted after a lot of pain—to try to seem not-masculine,
 

-

 all the while assuming that my gender problems were clearly not the same thing as the gender problems of actual trans women,
 
 because the standard narrative was that that's 
 all the while assuming that my gender problems were clearly not the same thing as the gender problems of actual trans women,
 
 because the standard narrative was that that's 


@@ -86,22 +111,8 @@ writes down all the facts that aren't on anyone's side.
 
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-_(content warning sexism)_  
-_(content warning transphobia)_  
-_(content warning too much information about weird fetishes)_  
-_(content warning WTF did I just read)_  
-
-(November 2020, [TODO] words)
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-
-WTF transphobic garbage did I just read?? Too bad Yudkowsky can't control how creepy randos on the internet interpret his work ...
-
------

 
 

-Hi SneerClub! I noticed that you've enjoyed some of my [previous](https://www.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/fw9cng/the_lgbt_activist_machinery_instead_adapted/) [work](https://www.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/61t94y/rationalist_tries_justifying_their_transphobia_by/), so I thought I would go ahead and proactively share this one with you, because (I'm guessing) it probably checks a lot of the boxes for top sneerable content: it's got Yudkowsky hero-worship, _and_ sexism (as many of you would define that), _and_ transphobia (as many of you would define that), _and_ weird sex stuff!

 
 

-(From _my_ perspective, I'm pouring my heart out about the most important thing in my life, but if someone else with a different perspective would only sneer, then I can only hope to have been—if only for a moment, as part of a subroutine in the optimal sneer computation—_understood_. And for that moment, I am grateful.)

 
 
 Sometimes I sigh because I'll never get rich
 
 
 Sometimes I sigh because I'll never get rich


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 (The scintillating but ultimately untrue thought.)
 
 
 (The scintillating but ultimately untrue thought.)
 

-

 Fit in somewhere—
 https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/KmghfjH6RgXvoKruJ/hand-vs-fingers
 
 Fit in somewhere—
 https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/KmghfjH6RgXvoKruJ/hand-vs-fingers
 

-I'm not objecting to your existence, I'm only objecting to the prerequisites to your existence
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+I'm not objecting to your existence, I'm only objecting to the prerequisites to your existence
+
+From my email to Jessica—
+> As you know, reality has a single level (physics), but our models of reality have multiple levels. To get maximally precise predictions about everything, you would have to model the underlying quarks, &c., which is impossible. (As it is written: the map is not the territory, but you can't roll up the territory and put in your glove compartment.)
+
+> There could be situations in psychology where a good theory (not a perfect theory, but a good theory to the precision that our theories about engineering bridges are good) would be described by a 70-node causal graph, but it turns out that some of the more "important" variables in the graph happen to anti-correlate with each other, such that stupid humans who don't know how to discover the correct 70-node graph, do manage to pattern-match their way to a two-type typology that actually is better, as a first approximation, than pretending not to have a theory. (See Tailcalled on "zooming in" on the typology to at least a four node graph.)
+
+But once you stop taking the "gender identity"/"woman trapped in a man's body" story as _axiom_ and
+
+
+It's possible to disagree with people's _theoretical account_ of their own psychology, without doubting the honesty of their self-report, in the sense that people are doing their best to translate the ineffable _qualia_ of their experience into words. 
+
+[throw a chair](/2019/Jan/use-it-or-lose-it/) and yell, "How dumb do you think we are?!"
+
+The claim is not that the trans woman who describes her experience as an "internal sense of her own gender" is lying. 
+
+If someone claims to have an inter
+
+https://surveyanon.wordpress.com/2019/10/27/the-mathematical-consequences-of-a-toy-model-of-gender-transition/
+
+You might ask, what do I mean by "as a first approximation"? 
+
+/2018/Jan/dont-negotiate-with-terrorist-memeplexes/#a-thing-about-me
+
+Men who fantasize about being women do not particularly resemble actual women! We just—don't? This seems kind of obvious, really? _Telling the difference between fantasy and reality_ is kind of an important life skill?! 
+
+_You have to let me show you what you are_. 
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